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[samzoelisa]

hi loner


point well observed .......syntax error

samantha

[samzoelisa]

hi

To explain a point better , we intend to use a small hydralizer at first (no gasoline whatsoever ) then when up to speed the larger electrolyser cuts in shuts off the small one and runs the auto from there ,

well were gonna have a go and construct it , then well see how it goes .

keith sinclair

[Creativity]

what is this hydralizer? Ok let me repeat myself : one thing is sure,any energy inside of the car is being produced by engine using gasoline as a primary energy carrier.Alternator uses engine power to make on demand electricity(battery has electricity in it because alternator keeps it also recharged),so if u use electricity in your hydralizer u run it indirectly on gasoline.By adding HHO to engine u will extract extra energy from gasoline and run on it more efficiently.Possibly this more efficient use of gasoline will outweight the energy used to produce HHO.In that case (i believe its real) u will have overunity.But until you run on gasoline u have something to extract more energy from.Once u start to feed more and more of HHO it will have not proportional increase on energy extraction from gasoline.In that case energy used to produce HHO will be even with extra energy extracted and with more HHO overunity will be lost.

Running on partial HHO and adjusting your engine to it i support with all my heart.Use of HHO as efficiency enhancer can work.

Loose from the other discussion:

Why to cut out the small one?let it run together with the bigger one.In that case u can make full use of your resources and secondary electrolyser can be build smaller in dimensions.

[Creativity]

hi all

well we figure that as we are taking away drag by allowing free airflow from front to back we must be gaining ?

as instead of the air hitting the front of vehicle it is being allowed to do a little work and then exit under the vehicle .

well were gonna make a test vehile , our own estate wagon , and well film it all for you . as we often state we dont believe in cant ..but can ................. i look at it this way if a wind is hitting a solid plate ok you have drag but if say it is made to revolve an impeller then it is not producing as much drag  and is being set free under the auto.


best wishes
keith

Yes you have some right here but not all the way.If u cut a section of your car and put an impellor in it you would have less drag if behind the impeller there is no more resistance.So it depends on how free flowing the behind of the impellor will be.Redirecting any air stream will produce a force on the redirecting surface.So car parts behing the impellor will set the drag even...All the drag points will sum up you must agree on that.
I am not intending to stop you from your research,just giving you weak points to think over.

[samzoelisa]

hi creativity

good point , just started today . at first it will be atop the car to prove the point , if all goes well then someone will have to rediesign the car wont they , as i envisage it as a straight pipe flared at both ends reducing to size of impellor in middle then free flowing to the rear of vehicle .so you see there wil be hardly any drag that we can see more than a suitcase at most.

i do not see cars as they are now and am prepared to build a custom car to prove point .but at mo were contstructing it for the roof as then we can tinker with it as well, as for the impellor itself we had a large discussion about this , and are now looking into the fact that passage of air in restricted areas produces electricity (so weve heard ) so after long arguments and brainstorming if anyone can enlighten us on this subject were always open to new ideas .

we do accept that propellors ,impellers etc are very old hat and so look for new ways to use the power withing the tube to better effect and i myself am trying to redesign our first idea so there is virtually no drag but great force harnessed .
rushing air can be harnessed in many ways , and as i said were wide open for interesting ideas on this subject .ie : in the physics area of ions and ion drives etc . and electricity thru friction of air . all those sorts of things.

dont worry about sending us long letters as we love to talk things over with all of you out there as we have tons to learn , and are always open to suggestions .

was in the lab today trying to find where we put all our test instruments when we needed to gain space , sods law is we wont be able to get to them easy now . but that is life , now sods law and murphys law we believe in wholeheartedly lol    lol ( we once owned a house with the no 13, and believe me all what they say about 13 and bad luck is true )

she (who has to be obeyedl Lol)said that as were gonna have a thing that looks like a jet engine on the roof for a while that we go the whole hog and buy a jet engine !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! being a guy who likes all things jet etc my eyes glazed over as i turned to look at her ,lol ("Er on second thoughts forget i even mentioned it") she hastily added as i started wondering if hho would power a jet engine , well it would power a pulsejet ok , but be hell for the cyclist who gets barbecued behind my car in a traffic jam lol............................


women eh !!!

well that s my sunday spiel;

all comments gratefully recieved
  best regards

keith sinclair