Miniaturized Electrolysis Chamber

[HHOwanabe]

Hey jadaro
In case you want to keep experimenting with smaller cells, I am currently testing with simple "brute force" electrolysis using SS 1 1/2" washers.  My cell configuration is two negative plates and one positive plate (s-..+s+..-s; where + and - are plates, dots are spacers, and s are thin metal straps for power supply connection.). The 2 plates for the positive is so I can place a thin metal strap between them.  My spacing between plates is ~ 1/8".  Using this cell configuration I get ~ 2X bubbles of two plates. (probably a little less)  I am using a 12V (Makita drill) battery and it measures ~.7A.  I am using plain tap water (in a small plastic bowl), as that is my ultimate goal for producing HHO.  I'm sure I'm loosng effeciency (current and or volts) because the 3 metal straps are partly below water.
So, if you took your small cell, made it about 1.25" diameter by about 4" long, attached three 1" by 4" straps from end to end  about 2-3mm apart, middle strap to positive and two outers to negative, wander what kind of production would you get?
Anyway, just a thought in case your interested.
phil g.

[medalmazterman]

I was in the junk pile and saw a old style oil cooler for a cummins diesel engine. Thought that I could use that for a generator taking small diameter rods and inserting them into the tubing that is incorporated in the cooler main body, althought it is made of copper instead of stainless. I think that the tubing is about .250 in diameter already and figured that I could use something about say .187 for the inside rods. Did'nt really get down to figuring it all out right now. But I am going on to build three of the Meyers type tomorrow and three of the Smack's or Bob Boyce type that has plates instead of tubes but will have both on hand. I am still not all that sure what electronics I will end up using but have the Meyers circuit being built locally and already have a pulse width modulator built but not really sure how much voltage I want to use with it right now. But the stuff is gonna fly tomorrow cause I am back in the shop and working with hydrogen gas so if you hear a loud bang dont worry it was just me. Oh and I will follow up with pics in the not so distant future.

[hypersoniq]

nice work jadaro2600!

In the end I figure a small inline HHO gen will be what actually works in running a motor on water.
The small scale makes it easier to experiment with different setups.

I'm working on a small cell in a tic-tac box so I can test the effects of a pair of NdFeB magnets on either side of it. First with regular electrolysis, then eventually seeking straight up resonance via RF, Ultrasonics, UV or some combination of the 3. My goal would be that the water never need contact metal.

the design that changes the world will be the one that requires the least amount of interaction from the end user, which is why brute force w/ electrolytes will never really catch on.

I also see a benefit to working with a smaller motor that can turn a generator to power an EV rather than a standard ICE conversion... imagine if all the cars and rucks on the road started filling up with water... all 600,000,000 of them!

Anyway, clever cell there... I surely would have broken more than one rod!

[jadaro2600]

My goal would be that the water never need contact metal.

Yes, this seems like the best approach, although, after having performed the experiment, I noticed that using graphite in salt water will produce chlorine gas as well - which can't be good for the inside of an ICE.

I plan to make another small cell - using distilled water only, and attempting to use pulsed DC.