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Overunity Machines Forum



Magnetic/gravitational motor

Started by Joao, October 09, 2006, 12:03:10 PM

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Joao

Excellent idea! Perhaps it can facilitate to build prototipes to test by using hoses with valves. The only matter is that it make necessary that the repulsive force of de magnets have to stay near to derection of the gravity force, near vertical. This situation cold diminish the theoretical potency of the intersection between gravity force and magnetic force (surely, the ideal angle is 90 degree or less).

FreeEnergy

Quote from: juspot82 on October 12, 2006, 12:11:25 PM
Why not just use the weight of the magnets themselves? or the added weight of a sliding rotor.

If the magnets are connected to a rod with a fixed length and allowed to slide closer to the center of the wheel the weight will become unbalanced. Here's a very crappy drawing:



This doesn't have as many rotors as a final product would, but it should give an idea. The magnets on the right hand side are being pushed to the center of the wheel causing the wheel to become unbalanced. Gravity naturally rotates the wheel counter-clock wise which forces the next rotor into position. I don't know if the rotors will have to be connected to the rotor of the opposite side or if just forcing the magnets on the right hand side of the wheel to the center would be enough to unbalance the wheel.

Think of each rotor set as a lever. For instance....In the picture above the rotors at 3 o'clock and 9 o'clock are one lever in the system and the center of the wheel is the fulcrum. When everything is centered they are balanced. However if you push the magnet of the 3 o'clock rotor towards the fulcrum you change the balance to be heavier at the 9 o'clock side of the lever. This is accomplished by 1 of 2 ways. The 3 and 9 rotors are actually 1 solid rotor that is allowed to slide back and forth adding extra weight to the 9 side when it is pushed by the repulsive magnet stators. Or they are 2 independent shafts that are made of 2 seperate pieces per rotor. The 2 pieces would be sized so that one could slide it the other similar to a radio antenna. There wouldn't be any added mass to the left side of the wheel in the seperate rotor setup, only a change in the distrobution of the weight on the right.

did a little mod to the Axletree wheel. :P

ResinRat2

FreeEnergy,

Now I really like that one. I'm not sure how you would design the middle axle, since all the magnet/sticks need to go through the center in good balance. Yours looks much simpler to build (except for the middle).

I'm curious to see what idea you might have for the axle/ center design.

Interesting innovation.

Thinking about the wheel with the one-way valves; I don't believe it would be very easy to build, although using a hose and fittings is an idea. (thanks Joao). The fittings would not allow compression in the places where the valves would be. This might allow water to collect in certain areas and not move to the next chaimber. The valves would have to be as easily compressable as the rest of the hose. I'm not sure this is possible.

Oh well, back to the brainstorming.
Research is the only place in a company where you can continually have failures and still keep your job.

I knew immediately that was where I belonged.

FreeEnergy

had another idea (with and without magnets), imagen the extending arms being air pockets and the whole wheel would be underwater. no?

FreeEnergy

ofcourse it would rotate the opposite way