Wheel + Pendulum = Steiner...

[iacob alex]

    Hi  mindsweeper !
 
Your image as a falling sweeper is interesting...maybe a cascade,as a gravity falling "sweeper"/brush.carry away action can be more suggestive,but what is the procedure to take out free of charge energy?

    Hi  Koen 1!

My proposal is not involving electricity,but  exclusively some mechanical spare parts. 

A pendulum (eccentric mass) falls in gravity,connected to a disk,ring("wheel") that is storing energy as rotational inertia.

This is the first step.

The second step is to use this energy so to organize a "self"(output>input),if possible.

Here we have a common,plain western science (gravity and inertia),with no esoteric oriental philosophy or mysterious words of explanation(see patents you are talking about...).

Maybe,the so called intellectual  "property" doesn't work in this case: it's ridiculous to hide,to put out of sight the simplicity ,if it can embody the reality.

Anyway,we are in the public domain...

By the way,the pendulum word-image,is not quite fit...a sequential avalanche seems more appropriate.

In the future,I will add at my web-site some drawings,so to be easy perceived.

                  All the Bests!  /  Alex

[Koen1]

Ah, a sequential avelanche using eccentric mass divison on a flywheel,
now that sounds like a nice idea.

What you're talking about sounds very Bessler-wheel style.
A gravity wheel, in other words, that uses eccentric masses
to keep the center of gravity off-center, thus causing the
wheel to turn... That kind of thing?

I have been interested in such gravity wheels using non-fixed
eccentric masses for quite some time now, and if you have
some time I'd really like to see a little drawing of your idea...?

I'm not sure how much your idea resembles other gravity wheel
ideas so I can't really say much about the intellectual property,
save to say that people have been pondering various types of
gravity wheels and often including non-fixed and/or eccentric masses
for many centuries already. I have seen designs that are said to
be over a thousand years old from India, and ones only a few
centuries old from the Byzantine region, and there's also a few
from the middle ages. But Bessler is documented to have demonstrated
a working version of such a gravity wheel in sevral towns and to
have had a large one running in his kings castle, and that was
only a few centuries ago. Besslers book of sketches may help
your thoughts on design of such a wheel?

Anyway, the basic elements sound good, now for the design?

regards,
Koen

[iacob alex]

       Hi Koen1 !

    In my opinion,the magic thing with gravity is that , a mass  has no inertia in a free fall.

    As I pointed in a past topic,this is as we have an "inertial discontinuity".

    So we have an "action"(free fall of a mass) without "reaction"/resistive inertia,in the time of this free fall.

    However  inertia is not missing,it is delayed  only, it comes at the end of this free fall,in a "harsh,rough "manner:the falling mass hits the ground,the huge mass of the Earth(a gigantic storage of linear and rotational inertia) and stops the motion of the small mass.
   
    You can see here again, Newton's Law/action=reaction / in a collision process at the end of an accelerating rush of the small mass to the ground.

    The physical oddity is that we have here,for the free falling period only...a temporarily suspension of the Newton's Law,also:as an action without reaction...a so strange phenomenon.

    This is why I said that gravity is magic,regarding the Newton's Law.

     Anyway,the great Newton remains valid with his law,with a condition:to apply his rule for the time when inertia doesn't work...as I said,inertia against gravity from the beginning of fall to the end of it.

     By any means inertia works,but my proposal was to wind,coil it gradually... so to find a partner for the "action"-gravity,or  to apply Newton's Law just for the time of free falling phenomenon.

     If you like,we "flow" gravity into inertia and then back,in such a manner to "open the gate" of nonlinearity.

     Here,it's possible, to find of way due to a new(so old!?) phenomenon:the nonlinear behavior for some pendular motions.

     When an "action" is "dans l' air",we have a chance to use it.

             All the Bests!  /  Alex