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Peter Lindemann, The Mechanical Engine: A Re-Evolution of Bessler's Wheel

Started by hartiberlin, February 03, 2009, 11:21:29 AM

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BAHammer

Alan,
The red line is the rod and weight before the shift going with a 90 degree action between weights and rods.
The blue is the long lever and weight and the green is the line attaching them. You should get the idea.
Hard to say what Bessler actually knew or thought since he didn't leave a manuscript detailing how he went about his work. Needless to say, it's a real beotch trying to understand how someone developed an idea 300 yeaqrs ago.

edited to add;
  Alan,
the shorter the rotating rods with weights, the less the long levers will need to move to shift the weights on short rods.
this will allow for a quicker shift and less imbalance caused bya long lever rotating radially to much.
   Good Luck  :)

AB Hammer

WOW Jim

You assume to much.  :o I have no need of help in most cases until I need someone to put it into proper physics math format. And I have several people for that. We don't talk the same language for some reason I guess. I am a very hand on type of guy. I explain experience and you explain math. I pay close attention to detail of movement and reaction. For there is where the answer will be found.  You keep saying that I am working on MT24. I have played with it along with MT25 and other MT's and what I see is totally different than what you see. You are looking at your math and I am looking at reactions. All of my experience shows me that there is a denominator missing in all wheel configurations. That denominator will be found only by observation and physical experience. IMO When I tell you something won't work. That means I have most likely tried it or something similar. Just quit reading so much into what I say and just look at what I say only.

I will say that what you just laid out, is the most I have ever saw you lay out. That is what I have been talking about for you to get your point across. Very few know how to talk math as a second language.
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Alan

Merg

I didn't notice the animated video of Lindemann Mechanical Engine was mentioned during this discussion:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GY0oz0iTiI

grayone

Quote from: Merg on March 10, 2009, 11:15:40 PM
I didn't notice the animated video of Lindemann Mechanical Engine was mentioned during this discussion:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GY0oz0iTiI

Merg; It is a shame it does not work.

Alexioco

I designed something like this once (some of you will remember) and I learnt that the pendulums swing will be "killed" because the pivot moves in the same direction as the swing and even if the pendulums did make it, it still would not turn for this reason:

Even though the weights take outer positions, the "wheel is required to turn" in order for the "weights to take an outward position" so the question is, whats powering the wheel in order for it to move the weights? the answer is Nothing!

So here with have a wheel not only trying to "move itself", but also trying to "move the weights" too!!!! Well thats not going to work...

This IMHO is the reason why all of these wheels are "Non Runners", It should be the "weights themselves" that "move the wheel", not the opposite way around...

(These are only my own thoughts on the matter and not to be used as a doctrine)

Alex

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