One wire transmission: Tesla and Avramenko

[jadaro2600]

SO somewhere in the time passed since I last posted here I discovered that this technology for single wire transmission is indeed used - it requires a 'throw' and a 'catch' mechanism which launches standing waves onto a transmission wire where they are caught at the other end.

There was come posts recently in the Joule Thief thread about a single wire lighting a small florescent tube - which is a similar effect as would be seen if you put one end to a Tesla coil - or maybe even an Avramenko style wave generator.

Generally speaking - i think all of these technologies tie in with one another.  Tesla coil, Joule Thief, and Avramenko's single wire transmission.  They are simply implemented differently.

From some of the results, I'm starting to think that a Joule thief might me capable of generating low power standing waves in the right circumstances.

[Pirate88179]

I just recently posted a link to my youtube video on the JT topic where I lit 100 leds using a single wire.  I did this a while ago.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQpx86Eg03g

There is a lot to this that we do not understand.

Bill

[exnihiloest]

I lead experiments with single wire transmission. I powered a
the primary of a tranformer with a generator at a frequency of
several tens Khz and monitored the current that was consumed.
Only one wire of the secundary was connected through a wire to the
common point of two diodes in opposition connected to a capacitor
with a resistance R in parallel. I measured the current at the
primary of the transformer. It was depending on R according to the
ohm's law.

Single wire transmission works but it is conventional science. In
fact the circuit is looped through the capacities between the end
terminal conductor and the environment (mainly, the ground or the
earth) and back to the transformer through the primary/secundary
capacity. It is easily modizable with tools for electronics, the only
required condition being not to forget the hidden capacitors (even a
completely isolated conductor sphere has a capacitor
C=4*pi*epsilon0*R).

Such capacities are weak (order of pF). This explains why high
frequencies, high voltage, wider terminal conductor surface and
possibly LC resonnance are required for best performances and why a
simple voltmeter connected to the terminal conductor, or the
proximity of the hand, radically modify the working conditions.

François

[Nabo00o]

Exnihiloest, if the other terminal of the transformer was either connected to ground or had sufficient capacity on its own (meaning that you had to give it a lot more surface), then this would have been conventional.

As the original experiments stands, this is wholly impossible for conventional electromagnetic theory to explain, because ONLY ONE wire is connected to the load. I know high frequency combined with high voltage will help, but only if you have enough capacity on BOTH terminals.


The present knowledge of electricity has huge gaps, which they are are continually forcing us to forget, while Tesla long ago tried as hard as he could to make us aware of the very different and unrestricted nature of the force we call electricity...

Julian

I lead experiments with single wire transmission. I powered a
the primary of a tranformer with a generator at a frequency of
several tens Khz and monitored the current that was consumed.
Only one wire of the secundary was connected through a wire to the
common point of two diodes in opposition connected to a capacitor
with a resistance R in parallel. I measured the current at the
primary of the transformer. It was depending on R according to the
ohm's law.

Single wire transmission works but it is conventional science. In
fact the circuit is looped through the capacities between the end
terminal conductor and the environment (mainly, the ground or the
earth) and back to the transformer through the primary/secundary
capacity. It is easily modizable with tools for electronics, the only
required condition being not to forget the hidden capacitors (even a
completely isolated conductor sphere has a capacitor
C=4*pi*epsilon0*R).

Such capacities are weak (order of pF). This explains why high
frequencies, high voltage, wider terminal conductor surface and
possibly LC resonnance are required for best performances and why a
simple voltmeter connected to the terminal conductor, or the
proximity of the hand, radically modify the working conditions.

François

[arhitrade]

The principle of operation and calculation of single-wire power transmission lines:
https://gorchilin.com/articles/radiant/energy_transfer_wire?lang=en