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Overunity Machines Forum



Gear-magnet motor. Just a strange idea

Started by Low-Q, November 14, 2010, 06:57:34 AM

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Low-Q

I did now a simulation of a similar motor in FEMM. I tested different surroundings also. The simulation shows that the torque are quite smooth, and therfor evenly spread during each revolution. There are no typical sticky spots! I did not expect that to happen...

Anyways, the simulation shows that the average torque of the eccentric rotor are 70.5Nm while the average torque in the outer rotor are -67Nm.
These torque measurements are as expected - quite equal.

The thing now are the RPM's. There is no doubts that the a given Nm at higher RPM can provide more energy than the same Nm at lower RPMs. It seems to me after this simulation, that the energy provided by the eccentric rotor are 20% plus the 3.5 extra Nm torque - results in about 125% overunity... (???)

The shape of the rotors in the simulation are not as ideal like the shape in the animation, but almost the same shape.

Vidar

lumen

Yes, I was looking for the actual sticky location and it does appear to be compensated for by the other transition area.
When I get some time, this would be a good test for a 3D simulator or possibly a test build. I wonder what the best direction of lamination would be?

Low-Q

Quote from: lumen on November 15, 2010, 11:47:52 PM
Yes, I was looking for the actual sticky location and it does appear to be compensated for by the other transition area.
When I get some time, this would be a good test for a 3D simulator or possibly a test build. I wonder what the best direction of lamination would be?
If you're going to use laminated steel, have in mind that both rotors are rotating. So stacking the steel sheets axially would be best I guess.

Vidar

void109

I have a question regarding the principle of operation.  Maybe its two questions!

The static magnetic field magnetizes the steel.  I'd like to assume that you could replace the steel with a ferrous material, like a balun rod.  If I'm picturing what you have in your animation correctly, then I should be able to fix two magnets with say the south pole facing the same direction, and close, relatively to each other.  Then if I bring two ferrous bars or rods over the two poles, the rods would repel each other?

I'm just trying to picture a simple way to test the principle.  If the above sounds correct, I'll try that.

lumen

Quote from: void109 on November 16, 2010, 11:52:19 AM
I have a question regarding the principle of operation.  Maybe its two questions!

The static magnetic field magnetizes the steel.  I'd like to assume that you could replace the steel with a ferrous material, like a balun rod.  If I'm picturing what you have in your animation correctly, then I should be able to fix two magnets with say the south pole facing the same direction, and close, relatively to each other.  Then if I bring two ferrous bars or rods over the two poles, the rods would repel each other?

I'm just trying to picture a simple way to test the principle.  If the above sounds correct, I'll try that.

Or try placing the two rods on the end of a single large magnet.  :-X