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Overunity Machines Forum



Gear-magnet motor. Just a strange idea

Started by Low-Q, November 14, 2010, 06:57:34 AM

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Low-Q

Here is a simple version that should work as good (or bad)...

lumen

Quote from: Low-Q on November 22, 2010, 02:50:17 PM
I wish it was that easy. I have posted a thread a few days ago with a similar idea here:http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=10029.0
Mine use two parallell steel chains which enters a magnet and are forced apart. Then they push on two none magnetic rollers (Look like gears on a bicycle, but not magnetic material). The magnetic chain also also enters a N/S to be forced together again. Again they are pushing similar rollers in the same direction. Look closely on the drawing in this post. I haven't found any reason (yet) why this will not work...except it would theoretically be easier to enter the first magnet than exiting it. The magnet will pull harder on metal pieces whicn is further apart than close together...then the separated parts will be forced in the opposite direction and counter force the push it does on the roller.

In a few days I will probably find myself in the big black hole again ... finally found where the flaw has been hidden all the time :-\

Yes, your previous post does operate on the same principal. I was thinking the "V" gate toy in the other channel may be working on the same principal also, but I'm not sure how.

I built an expanding washer setup some time back, and did some tests on it. You would be surprised how much force the washers exert on each other. I think either concept could work but the one I posted looks easier to build. I was thinking just some thin shim steel rings, and take them to staples and have them laminated. Cut around the edges and mount them on an axle. Simple and easy.

The main concept is to move into the field where work could be done. The main problem I found with the expanding washers is the expanded washers require more force to remove from the field than when compressed. I'm thinking that in a continuous path where there is nothing moving into and out of the field, the increased attraction on the expanded area only adds to overall domain stiction. With the right material, this would not exist.

I see no reason why this concept does not work. (but Im sure I'll find out)





lumen

Omg, It's the Christmas OU device!
It might suffer from the pull on closer and exit expanded problem though.



lumen

@Low-Q
Sorry about the Christmas thing, I guess I was just to excited about the concept of operation in general.
I mean, this has to work! Just take into account the only two things that could possibly prevent it from working.

#1 Magnetic remanence.
Once somethings are magnetized, they tend to want to stay magnetized. There are materials used in shielding that do not remain magnetized and would be a good choice to eliminate this problem.

#2 Surface exposure.
If a stack of washers are exposed to a magnetic field in a parallel direction, they will become magnetized in a common direction and repel from each other. The attraction to the magnet also increases due to a larger exposed area to the magnetic field. But in a continuous band or ring, the increased field area does not increase or change the direction, it can only increase the #1 effect.

This shows that the RING MOTOR or your chain motor or several other motors that employ this concept are GUARANTEED to operate!



ramset

Vidar,
Maybe one more drawing please?

I don't understand the Christmas Motor,But I like Lumens enthusiasm,and it seems so simple!

Thanks
Chet
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