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Overunity Machines Forum



Looking for an engineer to build prototype

Started by keihatsu, November 16, 2010, 06:40:04 PM

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keihatsu

Quote from: broli on November 19, 2010, 07:39:58 AM
I agree, even a child can do this. You can also replace the tube by a material that can absorb water, like rope or paper.

But this is an idea that most starting in this field have thought of. The problem is always when you want to get the water out. Try to think unconventionally. What if you could switch the tube's adhesion to the water on and off. Then you can let it go up, switch the adhesiveness off.

One way you can do this is by trying to electrically charge the glass and see what happens to height of capillary action.


Where will said child obtain appropriate materials?  Custom capillary tubing of sufficient diameter, flexibility, and coated with hydrophilic substance.  Possible change of diameter near apex of curve to create a bottleneck (this would reduce the force necessary to break surface tension at that apex).

If this is obvious, then where is any literature or example that this has ever been tried before.  I am unable to locate such a source despite active searching.

Also:  since this is so easily understood by children, how does water re-cohere from the capillaries inside the branches into fruit?  EG. a coconut or tomato?  Please explain how a tree can do something that is impossible for us to duplicate.  This must be trivial to explain.

FYI, I understand photosynthesis occurs in leaves.  And transpiration pulls water into the higher branches.  However, my question is how does the fruit coalesce water from the capillaries within the branches?  You are saying this cannot be done by humans?

angryScientist

How about wire of appropriate diameter bundled together into a wick. With the wire being made of or coated with a hydrophilic substance.

A cotton wick will get may get you a few inches of lift. It's a neat little trick.

keihatsu

Quote from: angryScientist on November 20, 2010, 11:07:03 PM
How about wire of appropriate diameter bundled together into a wick. With the wire being made of or coated with a hydrophilic substance.

A cotton wick will get may get you a few inches of lift. It's a neat little trick.

The wick won't concentrate the mass of water into a single point.  It's the concentration of that mass into a single point (using multiple tubes) that might break the surface tension.

Or see the attached diagram for a similar way of looking at it.

keihatsu

You would need an air hole at the apex where the surface tension breaks so there wasn't a vacuum.