New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33

[el-tigre]

A variation on the v-gate motor.

The pic describes it best. Keep the vgate stationary and rotate 3 equally spaced egg beaters with sets of 3 separately rotating drive mags around it.

When the drive mags reach the sticky spot at the end of the vgate, the drive rotors "step" (rotate) over it and reengage the ramp just past the gate.

I hope someone with an existing apparatus likes this enough to try it, I have no opportunity to build it until next summer.

[Omnibus]

A variation on the v-gate motor.

The pic describes it best. Keep the vgate stationary and rotate 3 equally spaced egg beaters with sets of 3 separately rotating drive mags around it.

When the drive mags reach the sticky spot at the end of the vgate, the drive rotors "step" (rotate) over it and reengage the ramp just past the gate.

I hope someone with an existing apparatus likes this enough to try it, I have no opportunity to build it until next summer.

Looks similar to what @Dusty did. You have now to figure out, as @Dusty has to, how to disengage the rotating magnets when over the sticky spot and then engage them past it. This engagement and disengagement has to be done by the machine itself through a clever mechanism. I'm not sure it would be easier to do and with less losses than what @Roobert33 proposes. All these devices require negative feedback and it's a matter of engineering ingenuity to find out the practical solution to that.

[The Observer]

@CLaNZeR,

Any progress with your replication?

Bill

Last post from Clanzer was Nov. 30th.
At that point it looked like he was very close to doing a replication (working or not).

3 weeks later, no update... hmm.
Hope all is well Clanzer.

Best Regards,
                     The Observer

[el-tigre]

Thanks for the comments Omni.

The hypothesis for this machine is that the momentum of rotation will automatically carry the egg beaters over the sticky spot.  i.e.   when a rotor magnet approaches the spot, it will tend to slow but the rest of the egg beater style rotor will then be carried past due to momentum which causes the egg beater to rotate on its own independent axle over the sticky spot - which causes the topmost rotor mag to approach the vgate magnets and engage them. (remember how the blades move in those old fashioned hand crank pencil sharpeners)

Continued momentum will then roll (twist) the now trailing rotor mag stalled over the sticky spot up and away which will free the egg beater to rotate back into the drive position for another trip around the vgate.  like a large gear engaging a small gear (planetary gear set  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfpQTpLurv0&NR=1   but the center (sun gear) is fixed and there is no exterior ring gear). 

Sorry, not able to animate it myself maybe somebody with a simulator can?  Obviously, the rotor mags should be covered on 3 sides with iron or mu-metal to reduce (redirect) magnetic attraction as they are twisted up and away from the sticky spot. 

Will this action slide and roll the rotor mags and the vgate mags apart (requiring less force) rather than pulling them apart like a cam lifter (requiring maximum force)?

[Omnibus]

Thanks for the comments Omni.

The hypothesis for this machine is that the momentum of rotation will automatically carry the egg beaters over the sticky spot.  i.e.   when a rotor magnet approaches the spot, it will tend to slow but the rest of the egg beater style rotor will then be carried past due to momentum which causes the egg beater to rotate on its own independent axle over the sticky spot - which causes the topmost rotor mag to approach the vgate magnets and engage them. (remember how the blades move in those old fashioned hand crank pencil sharpeners)

Continued momentum will then roll (twist) the now trailing rotor mag stalled over the sticky spot up and away which will free the egg beater to rotate back into the drive position for another trip around the vgate.  like a large gear engaging a small gear (planetary gear set  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfpQTpLurv0&NR=1   but the center (sun gear) is fixed and there is no exterior ring gear). 

Sorry, not able to animate it myself maybe somebody with a simulator can?  Obviously, the rotor mags should be covered on 3 sides with iron or mu-metal to reduce (redirect) magnetic attraction as they are twisted up and away from the sticky spot. 

Will this action slide and roll the rotor mags and the vgate mags apart (requiring less force) rather than pulling them apart like a cam lifter (requiring maximum force)?

Now, again, there was a proposal similar to that couple of years ago called 'Grandpaw's Shop Magnet Motor Plans'. The guy was even selling them on ebay and there was a bit of discussion about that. I wonder if anyone actually tried to make a model. Also, there was one Lego proposal on youtube ostensibly showing a working motor based on a similar idea but it was said that it's in fact a video shown in reverse. So, I hate to disappoint you but it seems it has already been around as an idea. The problem in this field is that only very few folks have even the basic tools to make a good model and all that remains are ideas which are basically very similar.