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Overunity Machines Forum



New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33

Started by hartiberlin, November 17, 2010, 05:47:43 AM

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lumen

Quote from: DreamThinkBuild on December 30, 2010, 01:49:59 PM
Hi Lumen,

That is exactly what I believe, watching Laurent's video of him doing it by hand he shows different magnets but his hand is still taking the same path to get rotation. I proposed a fixed deformed cylinder which would have the same path that your hand makes as you pull away from the gate. It would be inverse though as a external wheel will rotate around the fixed center track. You would have more magnets that are getting pulled along the track then those that are being pushed through the gate. This offset of force might be enough to get it to get past gate without relying on external mechanics.

That's correct! Except you don't need to taper in the leading edge of the rotor. The higher leading edge causes a greater attraction and is pulled in.


DreamThinkBuild


QuoteThat's correct! Except you don't need to taper in the leading edge of the rotor. The higher leading edge causes a greater attraction and is pulled in.

I see, that could give you 9 magnets pushing only 3 through the gate, a much better ratio.

synchro1

@Clanzer,

Why not try use a pendulum and matching force magnet in attraction to help raise the stator, coupled with a strong spring? The "Hatem magnetic cogging effect", the power generated by two magnets in attraction that pass by sheering, may help power both the spinner and the pendulum. The magents want to chase each other as they sheer apart, and this force helps propel the rotation. A diametric tube stator that can roll freely, may help. Everyone's seen the rolling steel ball magnets and pendulums in perpetual motion already from Finsrud, so we know they're a winning combination.

Best regards,

Synchro

synchro1

Quote from: Omnibus on December 30, 2010, 01:07:43 AM
Well, @Roobert33's only has one cam. Wonder what the role of the bottom lever is? Also, it seems to me the drum and especially the bar that goes across it (the stator) are too heavy.

That bottem lever looks to me like part of a spring for the stator gate. The spring looks like simply a strong piece of wire that's bent and held down on one end over a fulcrum.

bastonia

After reading this entire thread and reviewing the video, I am as always, not surprised at the low observation level.

1) The whole point of this design is breaking the sticky point.
2) This accomplished by:
    a) "The Spring" attached to the cam shaft and the metal disc attached to the base.
    b) "The Cam" which the has a downward slop for the spring to pull against and create forward force.
    c) "The Magnet Lever" at the base , 180' degrees to the top Cam hits to add additional momentum.
3) All the suggested solutions do not take any of these objectives into account.
4) Clanzer model has too much friction and cam accuracy to even come close, not to mention the spring.

I wish I had the time and resources to build an actual reproduction, but until I see something that is actually close... I will continue to believe this model has some merit.

Cheers All, happy hunting.