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New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33

Started by hartiberlin, November 17, 2010, 05:47:43 AM

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Quote from: Scorch on November 08, 2011, 01:37:10 PM
And in that short, telephone, conversation I heard him say (hearsay) the following:
#1 He was involved with invention and construction of this motor.
#2 The ferrite rods were nickel plated merely for appearance.
#3 He sold the design. (to an Italian???)
#4 He is under contract which includes a non-disclosure agreement regarding the design specifics.

I informed him that I have a fair understanding of contract law and that I respect his non-disclosure agreement and I did not ask him anymore questions.
The conversation was about about 3 minutes long and I have no intention of bothering him anymore on this subject.

Now everything is clear for me about roobert33 oh my godness Rob, if you read this - Sorry that I had hack your motor. Modeling from non exsiting drawings based on pictures is my passion, sorry again, I did not know that you buy it, but I cant get  back DXF files from internet. I guess you lost motor potential interest, sorry.It is already here, sorry.
I was very angry that did not find it in internet as already open source staff and made reveres engineering works to create its physical dimension that explain all if we are good in magnet physics and calculations...


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Quote from: roobert33 on November 08, 2011, 10:25:10 AM
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Rob, you are logged, I can see, so, we shall forget about new 10min video?
Short and my last question here to you:
Then(it depended from your answer) I will or not will open next details about your motor that you are holding so taff,
I swear, I cant understand you. Motor by this video is compromised to get patent, why you are holding info down, explain it 1 time and I will stop my info about your motor here?

You are playing now not from your team Rob because by your silence about my provided DXF files you are proving its right scale. Do you understand me?

Truly
Rob
ЕсÑ,ÑŒ русская пословица - молчание знак согласия - There is a Russian proverb - silence means consent... guess you hate me already... sorry
http://www.translate.ru/

roobert33

Maybe I have not explained me well ...
In the previous comment I wrote that I made a copy of the first V-gate in two days.
It understands very well that this my new V-gate is not the original one, even a child would understand.
The first V-gate I have sold it to a person long ago, as a way of mechanical beauty and I couldn't do the photos to it, in addition I can't  make a new video with the breath of the air that turns the toy, I would be certainly bombarded by criticism of YT users.

However, I have already explained you that the V-gate can't just work alone, if so, it would be the perpetual motion, you realize it or not? I would do the most sensational discovery of the millennium ...
And you think, I would be now here at the Forum to waste time arguing about it?

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Quote from: roobert33 on November 08, 2011, 05:04:15 PM
Maybe I have not explained me well ...
In the previous comment I wrote that I made a copy of the first V-gate in two days.
It understands very well that this my new V-gate is not the original one, even a child would understand.
The first V-gate I have sold it to a person long ago, as a way of mechanical beauty and I couldn't do the photos to it, in addition I can't  make a new video with the breath of the air that turns the toy, I would be certainly bombarded by criticism of YT users.

However, I have already explained you that the V-gate can't just work alone, if so, it would be the perpetual motion, you realize it or not? I would do the most sensational discovery of the millennium ...
And you think, I would be now here at the Forum to waste time arguing about it?

:) <it would be the perpetual motion, you realize it or not? I would do the most sensational discovery of the millennium> ...:))))))))

Rob you are thinking now like most of the young Russian guys:) I am glad that you had sold out sensational discovery of the millennium  and I did not harm you with my scaled drawings of it from video - YOU BLESSED!
Now about perpetual motion:
Magnets that working on the rotor charged by human by using electricity and they have natural degradation in calm way N to S pole 1% for 10 years and 7-10% degradation if they will work N pole to N pole
Such type of work of magnets like N to N or S to S produce kinetic energy from metal magnetism that they are charged by human  with power consumption. So that power going to be degredate in 5 years but about 5 years it will run non stop if we will solve mechanical problems of cam axis, ball bearings etc

So, where we have perpetual motion? What can be forever under the SUN Sir?:)Nothing!!!
Next time dont sold such important things without doing marketing of its price!Please:)

So, please count that you sold out my future souvenir structure to Punk and that device will come back to Italia as mass product with E-bay  service and your customer will get crazy to see that they are many! I am sure he can not even evaluate it technically to reproduce:)))))))
But life reproductive. Nobody can stop it  accept nuclear war on the planet or huge comet attacks…that will destroy our planet to pieces.

OK  You will see soon my gate running, I will give you opportunity to sold next nice motor to you clients:)))))) Grate positive move from me to you don’t you even if you said to me NO? OK:)

Have a nice day, good night guys! I have got now more or less true answer:) completely satisfied, because I understood how Europe guys thinking when they have real discovery of the millennium:))))) Crazy to understand such things but this is already facts!

MY GRATE THANKS TO ALL ROBERT'S names THAT MADE THAT discovery of the millennium and sold it without thinking about general people:)

now as fas as all things are clear I want to help you to evaluate your mistakes in pics that you show US:))

1. magnets - not the same shape and not such shiny like in video:)
2. rotor axi - in real one its screw - here simple rod - guess aluminum:)
3. rotor axi has nuts to support camshaft in pics they are absent:)
4. rotor brass in original one more narrow than in this pics:)
5. camshaft - very unique shape in original - here we can see toy, sorry:) "half moon" shape can not work like cam shaft. Camshaft cut fresh, do not polished, do not have prints on it of sliding works...:)
6. in original video we can see some kind of brass or magnet color support for spring - here in this pics support is diff. by its height and diametr:)
7. in original video spring more wide and from thin metal - here just toy without calculations:)
8. round support of motor is solid one - here we have hole in the center:)
9. top magnet supporting wood bar thin in original - here we have thick one :)
10. right side black pipe to drive "Ð"" shape wooden bar changed - this will never work - too much friction metal to metal, too much area coming together:)
11. ball bearing central ring in original small as 10-11mm here we have much more bigger.:)
12 side wooden supports are completely different from original one.:)
13. brass rotor balancer on ply not at the right side in pics, you glue ply not from correct side:)
14. magnet below - not double one but I think from very specific print on brasspart supports that magnet - you took it from real one
it was under the sliding and has print on it,you did not made second same part:)
15. all gaps between magnets in original motor less than in pics:)
16. the line where 4 magnets in line - line not the same like in original (important V-gate thing compomized in pics creator of toy was in harry:)))))))
NICE TOY IT WAS:)

Come to my YT and see if someone risking to say 1 bad word about your sold motor. Am I God or DEVIL? They are scare of me?:)))))))))))))
No Sir! I just explane all in Russian and everybody educated or not stops thinging that this is perpetual motion motor.
If some one will say there that is perpetual motion motor then I will smash that person in 1 sec with all my power of knowledge and connections to
science! I have only positive reaction there Sir, Why you sold it out nobody knows - only you! If you get 1 good JEEP car price for it then I am glad and in the same time very sad of you because your new JEEP or new house will vanish in time under the SUN!But you lost your name on the stones of Earth!

<I have already explained you that the V-gate can't just work alone,>
WOW! You sold not working V-gate rotor ?:)
OK Rob as you said, as you said Sir, I believe that you can find there damm idiots, grate form you:) You earn free and easy money!
I am very proud that I know you!

Regards
Rob
Классно выкруÑ,ился молодец! Ð'Ñ‹ не шаÑ...маÑ,исÑ,!

Scorch

Its merely a question.
He, Robert Calloway, told me he sold the design but did not elaborate.
So I asked, in parentheses, to this general audience; "To an Italian???"

It's all very mysterious and roobert33's accusation that people at PESN are lying; still remains.

One thing I think I know; the original video came from youtube user "roobert33"
And a roobert33 DOES have a youtube account that was created in late 2008.
And the lab in his OTHER videos appears to be the same lab as the recent photos he attached here.
And the hands, in both the original video and his recent pictures, are VERY similar.

So, in my opinion, roobert33 has established a certain level of credibility to his claim that he was involved.
As far as whether, or not, such a device is possible? Or the effects in the original video can be duplicated by ANY means?
This remains yet to be seen.

I would love for roobert33 to make another attempt to just duplicate the pose of his hand as it is in the original video (like it is in your cad file).
I am not sure; but I think I see a similar "light area" scar behind the thumb.

roobert33 does not need to go through all that trouble to prove the device can be faked.
I did not, and do not, dispute the device can be faked. In fact I am not trying to take any position at all.

But a photo of his hand that can be MATCHED with the original video hand would certainly add even more credibility to his claim that PESN information is false.
And that he was involved with the original invention and video.

Is perpetual motion possible?
Doesn't this depend on your definition of perpetual motion?
If you claim the orbits of electrons in atoms, and the orbits of bodies in a solar system are slowly decaying, over billions of years, then NO, perpetual motion is NOT possible.

If you claim perpetual motion only has to last AS LONG as the orbits of electrons in atoms, then YES, perpetual motion IS possible and it is being DEMONSTRATED, every day, in the form of electron orbits in atoms.

Just REMEMBER, what does electricity DO inside a conventional motor?
It merely creates a MAGNETIC FIELD of FORCE.

Do we need a flow of electricity to have a very STRONG magnetic field of force?
Does the existence of a neodymium permanent magnet answer this question?

Have you seen a demonstration of Ed Leedskalnin's magnetic holder?

This is a simple device that continues to maintain a magnetic FORCE after electricity is REMOVED.
See: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bwws-LlBGNU

If a strong magnetic force remains, after it's source of ENERGY is removed, what do you call IT?

If a conventional electric motor merely uses switched, or alternating, magnetic forces to operate, is it possible to build a motor that uses some OTHER means, besides electricity, to switch, alternate, or GATE the magnetic forces?

As far as this replication is concerned; I still need to do more fabrication.
I have not done anything since throwing together, in one afternoon, what you see in my pictures.

Next in line, for me, is to map out the V-Gate on a paper stencil that can be transferred to my aluminum rotor.
I also plan to fabricate a brass rocker and still looking for additional materials to accomplish this.

That is all for now.

}:>


Quote from: Arrow on November 08, 2011, 03:13:10 PM
Dear Scorch I did not understand this #3 He sold the design. (to an Italian???)
can you explane it?