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Overunity Machines Forum



New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33

Started by hartiberlin, November 17, 2010, 05:47:43 AM

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neptune

Go to http:Peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Kedron:Eden_Project:Permanent_Magnet_Energy_gain .


neptune

@nievsoliveras . Many thanks , my friend for help with that link . I am no computer genius . By visiting the said site , you will see experimental proof from two independent researchers , That if two magnets approach each other in attraction , they yield more energy than is necessary to separate them along a different path . The overunity is between 13 and 20% . Isn't this exactly what is happening in the machine we are discussing? . That is why I believe , that with very careful construction and tuning , it will work .

LightRider

Quote from: Omnibus on January 01, 2011, 04:10:32 AM
@LightRider,

Thanks for the clarification. That's a complete turnaround from what I understood initially. Honestly, when @FatChance!!! mentioned his observation I watched the vid at 2:29 and somehow it appered to me that he may be right. I was even thinking of extracting that short piece and having it looped so that I can observe it over and over again. You came up with a real solution, however, and your superb quantitative data put that point to rest. Of course, I'd like to hear also what @FatChance!!! thinks about this. Thanks againg for the great job.

@Omnibus,
I must confess that the personal reason to do this analysis is that I also saw the same thing than both of you (at 2:29).
thanks for the compliment, we must remain open to the possibility of another logical explanation.

These results are very far from affirming or deny the veracity of the phenomenon,
until then, I remain confident but with a critical mind.

Cheers,
LightRider

Omnibus

@LightRider,

Don't get me wrong. It goes without saying that unless someone (better many more) makes the device and shows it turning on its own, the reality of this device as an OU machine cannot be claimed.

Nevertheless, it's interesting to discuss your findings more.
First, I'd like to make sure -- the picture shown in http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=10034.msg269139#msg269139 icorresponds to 2:29s in the vid, that is, corresponds to the large pink dot in your graph, correct?

Also, regading the fine structure of the curve -- there are practically two regions (aside from the short ending anomalous one) showing two different lumen levels. One may argue that there's a short third in between but that I don't think is substantial. These different levels are because the guy turns the rig at one point, right? Then, the fluctuations in the lumen levels. They reflect the movements of the experimenter around the rig and probably the imperfections of a youtube vid, I take it. It may be argued that some of the minimums  in these levels do not reflect what they are expected to be from the maximums. But, I guess, it also has something to do with motions in the room around the rig. Of course, these motions in the room by no means can be the cause of the spinning of the rotor so regarding the main effect the said fluctuations can be ignored. That's just a curiosity which also shows that there's no looping or messing with the vid in view of the randomness of the fluctuations. That looping was suggested by somebody as a proof the vid is fake but your results show looping is out.

And, again, how can that spinning of the rotor be faked, if one insists this isn't the real deal?