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ORBO Technology Now Available To (Technical) Public - Any takers for €399?

Started by AquariuZ, November 28, 2010, 08:27:03 PM

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AquariuZ

Stefan, what do you think of all this?

If you applied for a kit would they give you one?

You are probably well known to them by now...  ;D

ElectricGoose

Quote from: AquariuZ on November 28, 2010, 09:18:21 PM
So why would three engineers with verifiable backgrounds lie on camera?

Did they measure wrong? Where they tricked by Steorn? Risking their reputations over a stunt like this?

Things to contemplate...

AZ

Listen very carefully because what I have to say will make your life simpler.

Actually those things what you stated for me are not worth contemplating...WHY?  ...because people say things and I cannot read minds or intentions of folk....this is for God to deal with.  What I deal with is COLD HARD FACT.  Everything else is just blah blah blah and a whole lot ego stroking.

You asked "why these men risk reputation??"  Look, I could tell you that MAYBE they have been bought out or that they are gullible or that they are just plain incompetent and didnt read the instruments correct BUT FACT #1 is that I dont know these 3 men so I can't say and FACT #2 is that it really doesnt matter.  Think of this though....why do LEGITIMATE very reputable doctors and scientists go on the stand as expert witnesses (in law courts) and 'sell out' for either defense or prosecutor??  Both the defense and prosecution expert cannot be correct!  It's all a matter of where your principles lie and where you will put your 'white and black lines' (truth and false).  Sadly for many in this world it is all shades of grey.  HOWEVER as I said...this is all subjective, I dont care what these 3 men said...I dont know them...so I look to the facts.  So...we ask...what are the facts??

Fact#1 - Steorn has claimed OU (now twice...one with E-Orbo which is mysteriously shelved and now solid state)
Fact#2 - Steorn has repeatedly promised public OU (with load) demonstrations, virtually ALL have been cancelled at the last minute for some lame excuse and the few public demos have only ever been accompanied by science type Power Point presentations with graphs of 'supposed proof' LOL.  Graphs my dear....are NOT...I repeat NOT proof!!
Fact#3 - With the thousands of replicators Earthwide...NOBODY can run a load and even recharge a battery with this Steorn trash let alone take the battery off and have it run itself.  IF IT WERE TRUE OU, you would have ample power to fill caps on the front end.  I have seen true OU and when you do, there is no doubt, the circuit literally starts choking on the excess.

Those few facts alone are enough for me.  I conducted my own tests and didnt have to get ripped 400 quid to see what a sham this guy is riding.  It's not so much that he isn't on the right path, it's that he actually doesnt understand it at all and rather than taking the high road of continued hard work, he has decided to say "this is it folks!! and sell something that is only a very tiny part of the equation which is essentially useless by itself.

Anyway...you believe what you want.  You have been warned.

E-Goose

happyfunball

Show me a single functioning 'Orbo' device powering anything. You can't, it doesn't exist. Four years later. The end.

Omnibus

Quote from: ElectricGoose on November 28, 2010, 10:02:52 PM
Listen very carefully because what I have to say will make your life simpler.

Actually those things what you stated for me are not worth contemplating...WHY?  ...because people say things and I cannot read minds or intentions of folk....this is for God to deal with.  What I deal with is COLD HARD FACT.  Everything else is just blah blah blah and a whole lot ego stroking.

You asked "why these men risk reputation??"  Look, I could tell you that MAYBE they have been bought out or that they are gullible or that they are just plain incompetent and didnt read the instruments correct BUT FACT #1 is that I dont know these 3 men so I can't say and FACT #2 is that it really doesnt matter.  Think of this though....why do LEGITIMATE very reputable doctors and scientists go on the stand as expert witnesses (in law courts) and 'sell out' for either defense or prosecutor??  Both the defense and prosecution expert cannot be correct!  It's all a matter of where your principles lie and where you will put your 'white and black lines' (truth and false).  Sadly for many in this world it is all shades of grey.  HOWEVER as I said...this is all subjective, I dont care what these 3 men said...I dont know them...so I look to the facts.  So...we ask...what are the facts??

Fact#1 - Steorn has claimed OU (now twice...one with E-Orbo which is mysteriously shelved and now solid state)
Fact#2 - Steorn has repeatedly promised public OU (with load) demonstrations, virtually ALL have been cancelled at the last minute for some lame excuse and the few public demos have only ever been accompanied by science type Power Point presentations with graphs of 'supposed proof' LOL.  Graphs my dear....are NOT...I repeat NOT proof!!
Fact#3 - With the thousands of replicators Earthwide...NOBODY can run a load and even recharge a battery with this Steorn trash let alone take the battery off and have it run itself.  IF IT WERE TRUE OU, you would have ample power to fill caps on the front end.  I have seen true OU and when you do, there is no doubt, the circuit literally starts choking on the excess.

Those few facts alone are enough for me.  I conducted my own tests and didnt have to get ripped 400 quid to see what a sham this guy is riding.  It's not so much that he isn't on the right path, it's that he actually doesnt understand it at all and rather than taking the high road of continued hard work, he has decided to say "this is it folks!! and sell something that is only a very tiny part of the equation which is essentially useless by itself.

Anyway...you believe what you want.  You have been warned.

E-Goose

The above text shows you don't know what you're talking about so you shouldn't ask people to listen to you.

Omnibus

I'm very much in favor of Stefan or someone else giving money to provide @poynt99 with the proper equipment to test Steorn claim (I'd add to that also @Omega_0 who was the first to confirm independently Steorn's results), provided Steorn drop their NDA requirement. I'd like, however, to know if such testing is at all possible with even the highest end equipment available. Some of you probably remember the problems I encountered in the Summer when trying to find someone in most reputable universities to measure power input and output of, say, transformers. What I found with astonishment was that no one would touch such measurements with a ten foot pole and when it comes to teaching the students about power balances they do it only with theoretical models, never demonstrating it with proper labs. Many probably remember the intrinsic problems in data processing I encountered during these studies, problems unresolved to this day. These are inherent problems in the very integration procedures and so on because of the digital nature of the signal obtained. Furthermore, I found out that, experiments notwithstanding, there is an inherent possibility for overunity in the very standard theory of electricity -- due to natural asymmetries it turned out that excess energy can be produced thanks to the saving from the input.