Splitting the electron stream

[utilitarian]

You should do yourself the favor of listening to Quarktoo.  He is no "troll", but rather an "anti-troll"!

Oh?  He is no novice to electronics, but he is a holocaust denier and basically thinks the world is run by a jewish/zionist cabal, and is convinced that people get killed for exposing information related to free energy (probably by said zionist cabal).  So you sort of have to filter everything he says through that.

[TinselKoala]

Gravityblock said,

"Did you try this also TinselKoala?  Oh, I forgot.........you tried everything under the sun.  Then again, if my memory serves me correctly, you didn't even use torroids, you didn't try dual magnets, you didn't try magnetic bearings in your replications.  Since you didn't try to replicate the obvious, then I'm sure you didn't try to replicate the not so obvious things, such as why the torroids in the e-Orbo was positioned and were structurally different than the torroids in the normal pulse motor during the demo talks, etc. in order to support the claims made by Steorn."

It's pretty clear that you think you know my work but don't really.

I don't mind you criticizing my work. But I do wish you would stop lying and misrepresenting it.

My videos on the Orbette 1 and 2 are comprehensive and, except for the minor point of the magnetic bearings, show that every statement you make about my work above is wrong.

The videos are up on YT for anyone to see. You should watch them, you might learn something REAL about what you are talking about.

Just for the record: I used many different types of coils, and to counter objections like yours, I used TOROIDS exclusively in all the later work. Toroids of many different compositions and windings, and I took current-distance-force data --- REAL DATA FROM MEASUREMENTS -- on all of them.

In my rotors I used every possible magnet arrangement -- "dual magnets" of every kind, including adding biasing magnets to the coils (which greatly improved performance, by the way).

In my various videos I very clearly explain the differences between the various types of ordinary pulse motors, and the Steorn Orbo (and my Orbette) core effect motor type. I am not sure you understand those differences yourself, from your posts.

But you are right about one thing: I didn't use magnetic bearings. Can you tell me what significant effect this has, why it invalidates my experimentation and data?

Here are just a few photos that should serve to correct the misrepresentation of my work that you are pushing. There are lots more where these came from. Note especially the scope graph, which proves that my Orbette uses LESS POWER -- and since the times are identical, less ENERGY -- when it's pushing the rotor magnets than when it isn't. Let that sink in for a while, and then tell me again whether or not I have reproduced the Orbo effect in my machine. If that doesn't convince you, please see my last YT video on Orbette.

http://www.mediafire.com/imgbnc.php/9c18d77dc80ab500ad923178488c55e94g.jpg

http://www.mediafire.com/imgbnc.php/f8df838aafbefc826b39ab81e3a7219a5g.jpg

http://www.mediafire.com/imgbnc.php/51442b50b044e201c3e60d0cc24342794g.jpg

http://www.mediafire.com/imgbnc.php/b8757d8398799a2ad728bf649988dc464g.jpg

http://www.mediafire.com/imgbnc.php/d12c60833a8d8ca23159dbd81c8b45685g.jpg

http://www.mediafire.com/imgbnc.php/63260e67b8110c443ba531d85def6d7c5g.jpg


(ETA: I am particularly incensed about the statement regarding various different orientations. As you can see from the above photos, both face-on (like the Plinths) and edge-on (like the scoposcopy demo half-Orbos) orientations were used. What might not be so clear from these photos is that I carefully and cleverly designed the coil mounts so that ANY arbitrary orientation and spacing and vertical/horizontal positioning could be tested...and I tested a lot of them.)

[spinn_MP]

Hey, TK!
Don't bother.
If people don't recognize that you actually came closest to the reproducing "Steorn's effect", in reality...

Again, please,  don't bother...

Cheers!

P.S. I may get the whole thing wrong, I still don't understand what the "Steorn effect" really is....

[gravityblock]

Did you try this also TinselKoala?  Oh, I forgot.........you tried everything under the sun.  Then again, if my memory serves me correctly, you didn't even use torroids, you didn't try dual magnets, you didn't try magnetic bearings in your replications.  Since you didn't try to replicate the obvious, then I'm sure you didn't try to replicate the not so obvious things, such as why the torroids in the e-Orbo was positioned and were structurally different than the torroids in the normal pulse motor during the demo talks, etc. in order to support the claims made by Steorn.

GB

@TinselKoala,

I said, "if my memory serves me correctly", and my memory did serve me correctly for the Orbette 1.  You claimed to have debunked Steorn's claim with that junk even before your replication of Orbette 2.  Since this was the case, then it's of no surprise that your Orbette 2 doesn't support Steorn's claims either. I looked at your youtube channel just now and most of the videos on Orbette 1 appears to be missing.  You only have two videos on Orbette 2 which I can see and was unaware of.  You finally decided to replicate the obvious, I'm really surprised.  But then, what did you show with the Orbette 2?  In one video you show how properly aligning the torroids with the magnets induced a near 0 CEMF in the torroid (We already knew this would be the case though).  That's a really good start at a true replication, but that is also where you stopped with the Orbette 2. I still see a BEMF in your current trace as it rises and before it flattens out.  Your voltage/current trace doesn't match the e-Orbo.

GB

[gravityblock]

Hey, TK!
Don't bother.
If people don't recognize that you actually came closest to the reproducing "Steorn's effect", in reality...

Again, please,  don't bother...

Cheers!

P.S. I may get the whole thing wrong, I still don't understand what the "Steorn effect" really is....

You're going to put TK's replications of reproducing the "Steorn effect" above the replications of Clanzer and Naudin?  LOL.  The Steorn effect is difficult to reproduce in the e-Orbo, and is why they're concentrating on the ssOrbo, so the "effect" can be demeonstrated in a plug and play device.  TK had the intent on debunking Steorn's claims from the very start, and his Orbette 1 replications clearly shows this. 

GB