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More Voltage out than in – Water Captret

Started by ibpointless2, December 22, 2010, 06:31:35 AM

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- More Voltage out than in -- Water Captret -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35fcHfgVxI8


I have a very simple setup that shows a higher voltage than what‘s in the battery that I’m using. Its based off my captret ideas. It’s simple and cheap to make, all you need is aluminum foil, clear plastic cups, scissors, and tape.
Where the battery would have 4.05 volts in it the water captret would increase it to 4.09 or even more with some fine tuning. Hooking a capacitor up and it would charge the capacitor to the higher voltage.

You wrap the outer of the clear plastic cup with about 1 to 2 inches of aluminum foil. Then on the inside you fill it up with aluminum foil, basically you want the aluminum foil on the inside of the cup to be bigger than the aluminum foil on the outside. But both pieces must never touch and if they do they will short out the battery. Fill up the cup to the top with regular tap water from the sink. Take a piece of aluminum foil that is a half inch or smaller in thickness and place it in the middle of the water, it must not touch the other pieces of aluminum; it should only be touching water.

Connect the outer piece of aluminum foil to the positive of a 9 volt battery and the inner piece of aluminum foil to the negative. Take your meter and connect the positive of the meter to positive of the battery. The negative of your meter will connect to the half inch or smaller piece that will hang in the middle of the water, Move that piece around to find the best voltages. You should now be reading more voltage then what your battery has.

nul-points

think this effect is relying on what is called  'concentration' galvanic cell action:

instead of using two dissimilar metals and an electrolyte, it's possible to use the same metal for both electrodes

then either you have each electrode in a slightly different concentration of electrolyte - or - (as in your case, i believe) you have different sizes of electrodes in contact with the same electrolyte (water, in your case)

so your total system is a DIY galvanic cell in series with a DIY capacitor (outer film of foil) then that is in parallel across your battery

possible that extra energy from the ionic charges in the water is adding slight charge to your battery

there may also be some element of hybrid electrolysis/galvanic cell action between main battery & your external DIY cell

neat!

hope this throws some light on the setup  :)

regards
sandy
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gravityblock

Try adding borax or baking soda to the tap water.

Quote from: BoraxI have observed an interesting N type negative resistance effect that happens only when the tip of a very sharp aluminum electrode is just barely touching the top surface of the solution.

Borax solution, http://home.earthlink.net/~lenyr/borax.htm

GB
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gravityblock

Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting a different result.

God will confuse the wise with the simplest things of this world.  He will catch the wise in their own craftiness.

ibpointless2

In doing more experiments I have confirmed that there is no water battery effect in the water Captret. First clue was that two similar metals don’t produce a galvanic reaction. The next and the biggest clue was when I replaced the small aluminum strip with copper or steel and the opposite happen, the voltage went down as if the copper or steel acted more like a resistor just because it couldn’t tune into the aluminum of the other plates.  Also with a galvanic reaction one of the metals break down and fall into the water which changes the color of the water, the Water Captret is still clear and clean.

So far it works great with other batteries; I’ve tried 12 volt, 1.5 volts, and 9 volts. All batteries seem to get an increase in output voltage and that increase is able to charge a capacitor.

Also something weird happens when you disconnect the battery; it seems the captret part will hold a charge that acts like an electret. The charge is small but when shorted it and allowed to sit for a few seconds it will bounce back up.


The reason why I think it’s getting a voltage increase has to do with the capacitance and the third plate.

So far the simple fact is that I’m getting more voltage out, and it’s able to charge a capacitor, and I’m only using water and aluminum foil and not any complex coils or circuits. The Water Captret is easy to build and requires no knowledge of coils or any real circuit knowledge.

It’s simple putting more voltage out than what I put in.