Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output

[bolt]

"Also inside the elevator there could not be any hidden cables as some people always claim.. People wake up, this is a real system selfrunning !

pfff From that video? "More like people wake up, there's a battery sitting on the table with enough amp hours to run a  drycell for 8 minutes, there could be alcohol in the bubbler and reservoir for all we know" come on.. really... that video -alone- means not a single thing. Completely inconclusive.

That battery only runs the 10 watts required to power the spark gap. Its only 7ah and that cell is going to be need about 700 watts. The cell needs 58 amps!

The 7ah is rated for 20 hour discharge in sub hour discharges it will die in half that time so about 3.5Ah or 42 watt/hour so it will be dead flat in under a minute in fact it cant even push that much current for more than a few seconds. So now we got that theory out of the way it only leaves alcohol in the bubbler. Well why bother to fake it? They are not entering for prize money nor seeking millions for investment.

[gsmsslsb]

bolt
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[ramset]

XS NRG
And QuarkToo also pointed this out 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyNc-97ZFhM&feature=related

Perhaps what Oliver {anton cell] Meant about pursuing
other meens of harvesting from the cells.

Chet

[smartscarecrow]

The demonstration looks quite impressive to me ... however, I have been fooled before so must admit to being quite skeptical ... having run small engines on 100% HHO before, I note that the "sound" the engine is making is not quite what I would have expected ... an engine run on just HHO tends to have sort of a hollow sound to it instead of the manly "roar" this one appears to be making ...

there is a VERY simple way to validate this ... cork the exhaust of the engine ... if its running on just HHO, the engine will continue to run, though will labor a bit ... when running on just HHO, there is so little exhaust pressure and volume that it can easily escape from the crankcase vent system so the exhaust can be corked ...

another thing that would go a long way toward convincing me would be a simple head temperature and/or exhaust temperature reading with a IR temp probe ... an engine run on just HHO will only produce head/exhaust temps in the 200F range, not the 600-700F range common with petrol ...

so while I am very impressed with the demonstration Oliver and Valention have shown us, I need a little more hard evidence to be a believer ... I want to believe, but I have been fooled by tricksters before and am highly skeptical ...

[quarktoo]

I tend to agree with Mark on this one.  There are many things here that do not ring true.

1)  Those high revving two stroke gensets require a high volume of HHO/any 'gas' fuel to be produced to sustain operation.  That particular cell is not big enough nor is it being delivered the adequate amount of amps to generate sufficient gas volume.  Common sense dictates that this last comment be true otherwise the genset would not be able to run the load.
2)  Running a ICE inside a building is proof of NOTHING.  For those of you familiar with GEET technology, even running air vapor through a water/gasoline mix (as Mark suggests) will produce VERY clean exhaust (but still with the telltale hydrocarbons).  The exhaust is cleaner due to the 'water injection' and has a twofold effect of increasing the octane level (if gasoline used) hence burning the fuel more efficiently and secondly having a anti detonant effect.

You have to calm down and see past the bulldust here.  I believe what they actually are doing is putting a very small amount of alcohol based fuel (like Ethanol) in the water bubbler.  Normally, less than 50/50 mixture and the engine definitely wont start AND this mix requires heating first if you don't have a geet reactor attached.  However, IF you were to make this mix say 80% water and 20% Ethanol and then supplement the air intake with HHO, this will be more than sufficient to generate an overall enriched 'combination vapor' where the engine would run extremely efficiently.

If what Mark states is true (about these folk refusing exhaust analysis), I almost 100% guarantee this is what they are doing.  They are probably waiting for a gullible investor that doesnt insist on tests so that they can continue with the HHO research which is a LONG way from self running by itself.

That's it.

E-Goose

You forgot the old hydrogen peroxide and silver electrode trick. Even the 400ma output of an IC will yield impressive volumes of gas with too much oxygen to make it useful.

If anyone bilks a bankster out of millions using that trick, I deserve a cut.