Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output

[ramset]

Grizli
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Some people from Italy slaim that this way HHO small amount makes butane have 18 time more BTU !!! ?

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Can you start another thread for Home heating this way[above quote] or bolts way?

HOT TOPIC Needs to be "experimented"
Thanks
Chet

[Feynman]

@all

It doesn't matter exactly HOW.   

HHO is inherently overunity.  It can be used to run a generator with a 99:1 air/fuel mix.  That is , 400-600W of HHO generation can run a 1kW generator. 

See the research and published articles of Les Banki.  The video that started this thread is real -- you just need to modify the generator to eliminate the waste spark and have variable firing relative to TDC (-40% to 40% TDC).

Basically you can use a Banki/Boyce style series electrolysis cell with about 2V per cell using unfiltered full-rectified mains to split the water, then the HHO output of this cell runs the generator.

[Feynman]

From my post at overunityresearch.com



http://pesn.com/2010/12/25/9501743_Anton_HHO_self-running_in_elevator/

Anyway , Both setups (the genset and the water-car) -- assuming both are legit, which I think they are -- are NOT using Stanley Meyer HV-type water splitting, nor Bob Boyce type resonant water splitting... yet still are producing 2-3L/min of high quality HHO. (This is from measurements).  If 3L-6L / min can run an engine under certain circumstances, we need to rethink our assumptions .  There are possibilities to why.... perhaps HHO is in a slightly different molecular configuration after splitting and recombination (perhaps it is some sort of linear, complex, or resonant ionic or hydrogen bonding of H2 and O2,  rather than the standard SP3 hybridized orbitals in source unsplit water, or the 2:1 molar ratio of diatomic gasses in the official knowledge)  .  It doesn't matter why if it works, assuming it does (as I have not tested personally, but am in contact with people who have).

For the electrolysis, the distance between plates should be 3mm.  Current density should be <30-40mA per cm^2 of the plates.  Voltage per cell should not exceed 2V.

A small 2.5HP genset can run on 3L/min hydroxy when of high quality and diluted with 99% air , 1% HHO.  The power consumption should be around 500-600W to split the water, but off a 2.5HP generator i think the output is more like 1kW.

More info to come over the weekend, this is just a quick overview.  I haven't tested this method personally, but I will.

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That 3L-6L/min is from a 60cell /120cell series electroliser (fed from the 120VAC/240VAC mains through full-wave rectifier) is more than sufficient to run a small generator to close the loop.  HHO is burns 1000 times faster than gasoline -- it actually detonates.   

All that needs to be done apparently, to replicate these closed loop HHO setups, is to make modifications to cause the ignition spark to fire somewhere between -40% TDC and +40% TDC and remove the firing of the waste spark.   Thank you .

http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=746.0
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Just ignore Farrah Day and MileHigh, they are paid disinformers.

[grizli]

@all

It doesn't matter exactly HOW.   

HHO is inherently overunity.  It can be used to run a generator with a 99:1 air/fuel mix.  That is , 400-600W of HHO generation can run a 1kW generator. 

See the research and published articles of Les Banki.  The video that started this thread is real -- you just need to modify the generator to eliminate the waste spark and have variable firing relative to TDC (-40% to 40% TDC).

Basically you can use a Banki/Boyce style series electrolysis cell with about 2V per cell using unfiltered full-rectified mains to split the water, then the HHO output of this cell runs the generator.

Dry cell seems more safer, but BB cell makes above Faraday with just DC

What about claims that detonation destroys engine quickly ? Can anyone prove long term HHO run for small generator and engine condition?

[Feynman]

Well there is speculation that the HHO implodes first before it explodes, because one of Les Banki's collegues found that the most efficient ignition point was *before* TDC, which would suggest implosion before explosion. 

In other words, some people's experimental evidence suggests that the most efficient point of ignition is prior to TDC.

In terms of long term effects on the generator, I have no idea, but I'll be happy to speculate!

There are way less corrosive gases during HHO ignition (there is no corrosive SOx or NOx produced), *but*, that said, the pressures may exceed the limit of the cylinders.  So it might be trade off.

Personally , I don't care if it halves the life span of my generator, especially if I can have homebrew OU running off of water with no CO/CO2 output.  You don't even have to worry about the exhaust killing you.     

But sure it might reduce the lifespan.  Who knows?  The problem I'm having now is trying to decide what sort of generator will be cheapest and easiest to modify.  It'd be nice to have fully computer controlled ignition so I could do something like

bool bWasteSpark = false;
double bFiringAngle = -0.25 * PI;

but I know it won't be this easy.