The paradox of overunity

[Ar-el-es]

Such a device is trivial but will have practical application. Any device that taps into a known or unknown (to be discovered or unused so far) energy source is not an OU device.

Okay, so finally having enough power to levitate off the ground and into space is still going to be trivial? Besides ending the use of fossil fuels and bringing power to areas of the planet that has none this is one of the logical uses of these untapped sources of energy. We would finally be able to afford to lift tons of equipment into space and colonize the entire solar system. If that's your idea of trivial then what in the hell do you want?

Let me make clear that I don't think there could be such a thing as an OU device within the true definition of the term. I believe that low cost or almost "free energy" devices will become more common in the future. The science behind most of these devices will still be of interest to science even if the methods used to create this energy becomes well known. We're always going to be trying to improve on designs like we have been doing with internal combustion engines. These devices may not be comparable to cold fusion but then again cold fusion may not be needed anymore if the proper device such as a gravity wheel is created.

[Omnibus]

I've explained it more than once -- OU in its true sense (producing energy without it coming from a pre-existing energy reservoir) is possible and is proven definitively. As to the technical developments you're mentioning, they are non-trivial in engineering sense but they are foreseeable. Anything foreseeable is trivial and doesn't constitute a step ahead in our understanding of nature which is the subject of the scientific exploration.

[WilbyInebriated]

There is no such thing as zero point energy. This is a deficiency in quantum mechanics which should be fixed as well as a number of other deficiencies in that otherwise beautifully crafted mathematical system.

then your comments are irrelevant as that is the device under discussion as per gwandau in reply 17 and ar-el-es in reply 24...

[Ar-el-es]

I've explained it more than once -- OU in its true sense (producing energy without it coming from a pre-existing energy reservoir) is possible and is proven definitively. As to the technical developments you're mentioning, they are non-trivial in engineering sense but they are foreseeable. Anything foreseeable is trivial and doesn't constitute a step ahead in our understanding of nature which is the subject of the scientific exploration.

Please explain or post a link to where the evidence for OU is and I'll change my mind.

[Omnibus]

Please explain or post a link to where the evidence for OU is and I'll change my mind.

This I can only do at an official presentation, not here.