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The paradox of overunity

Started by Low-Q, December 24, 2010, 09:32:05 AM

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onthecuttingedge2010

Just think, at those field strengths pulling virtual particles into reality and then becoming real particles, you would have all the infinite particles required to have infinite fuel.

also, getting back to the heat expansion of the universe, yes I believe you are correct.

but, both the infinite Universe and also the Big bang 'both' are supported by the C.M.B or cosmic back ground radiation theory, I just believe in the infinite Universe theory. recycle, recycle, recycle infinitely.

However I do believe the Universe is both infinite and expanding in all directions infinitely in infinite space. there are many reasons or factors that contribute to the expansion of the Universe. one being bound virtual particles, if a heavenly body has the required field strength to convert the virtual particle to a real particle. This is true Over-unity because the power source is making matter from the vacuum of space but you'll need a minimum of 1,016 Tesla to do it. the virtual particle has to be captured in this field strength so it can not pop back out of existence.

once the virtual particle is bound for a certain amount of time it will convert to a real particle and will stay in this existence.

see, Science and or Physics don't like to deal with infinity in math because it can not be proven, so they deal with a known number, what is known and not what they can not see or shall never see.

Jerry 8)

quantumtangles

We cannot get more energy output from isolated or closed systems than input.

But we can do so from open systems (where both mass and energy pass through the system boundaries).

This is because external energy from the environment is available to open systems.

If this were not the case, life itself would not be possible. All forms of life are open systems...converting external resources.

Short-term localised decreases in entrophy happen simply by virtue of being alive (though there are never overall decreases in net entrophy).

I see myself as part of a community dedicated to sharing information about open system energy ideas, against the backdrop of an energy crisis so serious for future generations I cannot fully grasp the seriousness of it.

It does not matter if we are in error. Better to share information, consider it more fully, and improve our knowledge as we go along.

The "paradox of overunity" is this.

Many scientists best equipped to solve the energy crisis are most assured of what they are most ignorant. They are terrified of seeming foolish, and never venture to add fresh thinking.

Many live in fear of ridicule and accordingly are without value when it comes to contributing innovative ideas.

On the other hand, many of the most inventive amongst us lack scientific training, and though intrepid, relentless  and utterly fearless, lack the background to check the maths and physics fully before publishing ideas.

Far better that the self taught persevere in contributing, than that the highly trained remain silent in fear of ridicule.

This is the real paradox of overunity. That those who can...do not, and that those who cannot...do.

Together....yes we can.

onthecuttingedge2010

It is best to leave out your equation of a God in your equations. God theory will only mess it or you up. stick to your known logic so you are not listed as a crackpot. God has not been proven by Science and or Physics so don't use unproved data to explain a theory.

otherwise, you will remain a crackpot not just in my eye but in the mainstream.

but hey! if you can deal with that then please indulge.

besides, your God would not lift a finger for anyone in fear that he/she might get replaced! you are on your own. this is pure common sense, deal with it.

Jerry 8)

onthecuttingedge2010

Quote from: quantumtangles on May 11, 2011, 08:24:47 PM
We cannot get more energy output from isolated or closed systems than input.

But we can do so from open systems (where both mass and energy pass through the system boundaries).

This is because external energy from the environment is available to open systems.

If this were not the case, life itself would not be possible. All forms of life are open systems...converting external resources.

Short-term localised decreases in entrophy happen simply by virtue of being alive (though there are never overall decreases in net entrophy).

I see myself as part of a community dedicated to sharing information about open system energy ideas, against the backdrop of an energy crisis so serious for future generations I cannot fully grasp the seriousness of it.

It does not matter if we are in error. Better to share information, consider it more fully, and improve our knowledge as we go along.

The "paradox of overunity" is this.

Many scientists best equipped to solve the energy crisis are most assured of what they are most ignorant. They are terrified of seeming foolish, and never venture to add fresh thinking.

Many live in fear of ridicule and accordingly are without value when it comes to contributing innovative ideas.

On the other hand, many of the most inventive amongst us lack scientific training, and though intrepid, relentless  and utterly fearless, lack the background to check the maths and physics fully before publishing ideas.

Far better that the self taught persevere in contributing, than that the highly trained remain silent in fear of ridicule.

This is the real paradox of overunity. That those who can...do not, and that those who cannot...do.

Together....yes we can.

this is called the war on energy, the first one to have it will rule the world, so far, there is no one energy ruler except that of nuclear as the most efficient of energy production per ratio. period! not even oil can contend with nuclear efficiency let alone anything on this site.

defending the Universe is not easy at all.
Jerry

onthecuttingedge2010

Quote from: quantumtangles on May 11, 2011, 08:24:47 PM
We cannot get more energy output from isolated or closed systems than input.

But we can do so from open systems (where both mass and energy pass through the system boundaries).

This is because external energy from the environment is available to open systems.

If this were not the case, life itself would not be possible. All forms of life are open systems...converting external resources.

Short-term localised decreases in entrophy happen simply by virtue of being alive (though there are never overall decreases in net entrophy).

I see myself as part of a community dedicated to sharing information about open system energy ideas, against the backdrop of an energy crisis so serious for future generations I cannot fully grasp the seriousness of it.

It does not matter if we are in error. Better to share information, consider it more fully, and improve our knowledge as we go along.

The "paradox of overunity" is this.

Many scientists best equipped to solve the energy crisis are most assured of what they are most ignorant. They are terrified of seeming foolish, and never venture to add fresh thinking.

Many live in fear of ridicule and accordingly are without value when it comes to contributing innovative ideas.

On the other hand, many of the most inventive amongst us lack scientific training, and though intrepid, relentless  and utterly fearless, lack the background to check the maths and physics fully before publishing ideas.

Far better that the self taught persevere in contributing, than that the highly trained remain silent in fear of ridicule.

This is the real paradox of overunity. That those who can...do not, and that those who cannot...do.

Together....yes we can.

Real particles in this existence are closed particles, virtual particles are not, they are open to influence at a certain magnetic power ratio. virtual particles pop in and pop out of existence but if you can make them stay and become real then we are talking.

Jerry 8)