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calling Maxwell's Daemon

Started by nul-points, December 27, 2010, 07:30:58 AM

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Omnibus

This, undoubtedly, is a very interesting achievement and probably there should be some additional measurements carried out on the system to better understand the nature of the excess energy. What is the order of magnitude of the current?

nul-points

as it happens i made three cells to the same construction and only used 2, (you can see the third one in the 'example-construction' photo above) so i can perform that 'interesting' test you suggest with a 'virgin' cell


i mention the current magnitude above

...i'm off to work now - a plus tard, mes amis


[edited to remove mistaken ref. to chemical action]
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Omnibus

No, no, not at all. I've never had galvanic action in mind. The change in the post was to replace 'regression line' by 'regression curve', that's all. Sorry about the current value, I've missed it and have to go back and check it out. Anyway, like I said, very interesting research indeed.

Omnibus

OK, I see it now -- on the order of a few uA. So the whole thing practically takes place in absence of current. Makes one really wonder what charges the battery. Now, I'm even more interested in seeing the voltage-time curve of an unloaded battery.

Probably, I missed that too but could you remind me what happens when the battery is replaced by caps.

mscoffman

@nul-points

One thing you should be aware of is that IR EMF and Random Molecular Thermal
Energy are closely related but distinct. Low frequency IR is incredibly difficult
to filter out, even after traversing masses of material. For example, used in
“seeing through walls”.

Matter and Infrared and random thermal energy interact in a Planck Black Body
as random thermal energy automatically produces a Black Body Spectrum of
self induced Infrared EMF (radiant thermal and optical) energy depending on
an object's temperature.

Usually receptors have their own temperature and the detector material's own
random motion inhibits the sensor from receiving any extra energy from objects
with temperatures below that point. This is why sensitive IR detectors need
to be cryogenically cooled.

There are three sources above Black Body thermal IR spectrum in everyday life.
One is us â€" living materials. Two is the Sun's energy falling on rooftops. Three is
the Infrared Spectrum coming from the ground, as the center of the earth is a
reactor heated by elemental nuclear decay.   

As far as I am concerned any non-black body IR spectrum energy is free energy,
but it is not associated with Maxwell’s Demon which is associated only with
statistical decoding (rectification) of random molecular thermal motion.

The large difference between everyday chemical energy levels 1or2 electron volts
and nuclear energy levels (10Mev etc.) prevent the leveraging of the statistics of
matter for operations that would be used to “decode” normal random thermal
motions, this is why Maxwell’s Demons are difficult to observe.

One should always be on the lookout for novel forms of matter that may well have
statistics differing from normal matter that could be used to construct a synthetic
Maxwell Demon.

So, What I am saying is; the devices in question may have more in common with
deep-IR solar cells rather than Maxwell’s Demons. Something that very careful
experimentation might be able to resolve.


:S:MarkSCoffman