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Strategy Ruminations

Started by Omnibus, December 28, 2010, 09:35:57 PM

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Omnibus

Here is an example of the offset voltage effect on overunity found experimentally in the RC circuit under study here. The voltage is measured by the 1X passive probe set at 0.00ns deskew value. The voltage amplitude is 4V. The main point here is to demonstrate that the OU found theoretically to be a function of the voltage offset is observed experimentally as well. It should be noted that the input and output power found by integration of the experimental data over one period practically coincides with the input and output power values found through averaging the instantaneous IV products over a period. That expected result is in contrast to what was calculated theoretically (cf. the theoretical data sheet uploaded earlier). The reason for the discrepancy in the theoretical calculation is still unclear. I'd put forth, however, that it is more likely that the processing of the experimental data yields the correct result in view of the fewer number of operations involved. There is also a discrepancy between the theoretical and the experimental intercept of the line shown in the figure which is due to the lack of proper equipment to set the exact deskew value. Nevertheless, the very fact that also the experiment shows voltage offset dependence of the OU as well as a negative value of the OU (facts found theoretically to be inherent in the very standard theory of electricity itself) furthers the conclusion that OU exists trivially but has been missed.

Omnibus

I'm sending back the active voltage probe since I see no use for it in the present studies. The 1X passive probe seems to be just fine for these specific studies. What is urgently needed now is to have independent parties repeat these elementary measurements and see if they can reproduce the results I got, indicating that production of excess energy is inherent in the basics of common electric circuits. So far this is the only finding which seems to confirm OU in electrical systems. No offense to anybody else doing research in other kinds of electrical circuits but so far I have seen no conclusive results from other studies proving OU.

nul-points

Quote from: Omnibus on January 22, 2011, 11:41:57 AM
What is urgently needed now is to have independent parties repeat these elementary measurements and see if they can reproduce the results I got, indicating that production of excess energy is inherent in the basics of common electric circuits. So far this is the only finding which seems to confirm OU in electrical systems. No offense to anybody else doing research in other kinds of electrical circuits but so far I have seen no conclusive results from other studies proving OU.

hi Omni

how did you get on with the Borromeo research paper i uploaded for you - did you see any tie-ins with your RC network findings?
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Omnibus

@nul-points,

Thanks for uploading the paper. Unfortunately, I still haven't had the chance to study it yet. Will post post here as soon as I can. Also, like I said, I'm following with interest your reports of the experiment you're doing although I may not respond every time you post.

Omnibus

@nul-points,

The article you uploaded is a very interesting model study of a complex situation involving the stochastic behavior of a massless Brownian particle under the action of random noise as the driving signal and the effect of the resultant noise fed back into the system. Among other things, an unexpected asymmetry in the probablility of finding the particle in the 1D space is reported when these two noise signals act in concert and that may be thought of as a simulation of Maxwell automaton. Asymmetries such as this one are always fascinating and deserve special attention provided the details of the model and especially the numerical procedures correctly reflect the physicality of the situation. Of course, at present I have no way to check that in view of the complexity of the proposal. On the face of it seems intriguing to say the least.

Now, regarding the connection of the above model with the studies I posted, it isn't clear to me now exactly where there may be such. Notice,  in the case I'm observing I'm bound by  some strictly defined parameters, determined by the non-probabilistic nature of the theory of electricity laws I'm applying. Also, there is no recycled signal applied to the system in my case. Everything is quite straightforward in this respect and the outcome seems to be much simpler to interpret. In my case all seems to boil down to an unnoticed so far effect of the voltage offset, current in this case having naturally no such offset (comprising what I call a natural asymmetry), inducing an apparent additional phase shift causing in some cases energy to be returned to the source. As it happens, in most cases not only a power balance of an RC circuit is not considered but such circuit is observed in most cases  at zero voltage offset. That may be the reason why the effect I report might have been missed or maybe, in view of it being in violation of CoE, has simply been ignored as some kind of error the roots of which need not be explored further. Ubiquity of CoE is so firmly established in the mainstream that any sign of violating it is promptly dismissed as a sure error. There is no open mindedness in this respect at all even among scientist who claim to be open minded. I'm sure you know that's the biggest no-no in science no matter how strong the evidence. Not so with the second law, the generality of which has been doubted at one time or another even by the founders of thermodynamics.

Undoubtedly, the attitude towards the first law has to change as well if science is to maintain its integrity. Not only the second but also the first law has an experimental basis and, despite the claimed lack of experimental evidence against it thus far, it should not continue to be considered inviolable should firm evidence against it is found. In other words, the non-scientific practice to check the validity of the experimental results against the first law dogma (unjustifiably based only on so far approved experiments) should be abandoned and the true scientific method should be applied with respect to the experimental evidence.