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AMAZING NEW VIDEO BY THANE HEINS

Started by bobo36us2, January 03, 2011, 04:13:03 PM

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tesletic

Hi all, I would highly appreciate if someone can explain me why there still isn't  a self runner, bare minimum made from this experiments as it shows clearly a COP of 39.6 !?  ???

ptxcdexia

Quote from: tesletic on February 01, 2015, 01:20:57 PM
Hi all, I would highly appreciate if someone can explain me why there still isn't a self runner, bare minimum made from this experiments as it shows clearly a COP of 39.6 !?  ???

This resembles a design similar to Ed Leedskalnin's PMH (Perpetual Motion Holder). However, the design has been improved..

After the iron is magnetized and in a closed-loop, when shorting the coils together (in the correct polarity), the "magnetic current" within' the iron is sped up. That is supposedly it's own "self runner." As for the COP, I'm not one for numbers until I've conducted the experiments myself. However, I've just seen a number of experiments involving the PMH which are similar to this one..

MarkE

Quote from: Omnibus on January 03, 2011, 08:46:09 PM
Zero watts input indeed means no power input but it does not al all mean zero current input. As I've shown, there may be conditions whereby the power input is zero but there's still current flowing which means non-zero power output. Therefore, the above "obviously" is out of place.
At phase angles approaching 90 degrees, small measurement errors make for big percentage errors in the results.  There is 89 degrees, 89.5 degrees, 89.9 degrees, etc, and then there is 90.0 degrees and they are all very different.

MarkE

Quote from: tesletic on February 01, 2015, 01:20:57 PM
Hi all, I would highly appreciate if someone can explain me why there still isn't  a self runner, bare minimum made from this experiments as it shows clearly a COP of 39.6 !?  ???
Because bad measurements and loopy ideas lead-out nonsense conclusions.

TinselKoala

Quote from: tesletic on February 01, 2015, 01:20:57 PM
Hi all, I would highly appreciate if someone can explain me why there still isn't  a self runner, bare minimum made from this experiments as it shows clearly a COP of 39.6 !?  ???

I will gladly explain. It is a false claim, based on  _measurement error_ and faulty understanding of conventional theory.

You are perfectly correct that such a high "COP" as we use the term should make constructing a self runner a trivial exercise. Any competent EE or even hobbyist could do it. I have repeatedly stated that I can do it, given a device with electrical inputs and outputs that made at least COP 1.3, that is a mere 130 percent of its input . With such a large ratio as 39.6 (are we sure it's not 40, or 39.5?) it would indeed be trivial to use the output to charge up some capacitors and then run a _second identical unit_ on the capacitors with whatever buffer or inverter circuitry in between, that would put out even more power than the first one. By the time you have chained together six or ten such units you are talking about Real Power that could actually run substantial loads far greater than could the input to the first unit in the chain.  Yet this is never done by the claimants. Why not? _Because they cannot, because their claims are erroneous_.
All the while, the claimants are still powering their homes and laboratories on.... the Grid. And their demonstrations always include Big Batteries, Power Supplies, Mains connections.... and of course DMMs and a bank of light bulbs. Where is the actual Power Analyzer that could easily be used for testing these devices? Nowhere to be found.