Tom's induction generator looking VERY promising ...

[Omnibus]

The power supply is not part of the device, any 12V DC source should operate his device, assuming the source meets the device current needs.

Right. I hope he is reading this and shows the input and the output current-time and voltage-time dependences, measured at the proper input and output, so that we can be sure that's indeed DC. If he still observes more out than in then next step is to use the switch mode DC/DC converter, as you suggested, and have the device run in a self-sustaining mode. That's when we should get excited.

[XS-NRG]

Right. I hope he is reading this and shows the input and the output current-time and voltage-time dependences, measured at the proper input and output, so that we can be sure that's indeed DC. If he still observes more out than in then next step is to use the switch mode DC/DC converter, as you suggested, and have the device run in a self-sustaining mode. That's when we should get excited.

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[Omnibus]

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[DeepCut]

What is the whole 'spam' thing with XS and Omnibus ? !

Anyway, Tom's probably not reading this ashe is always building, building, building. He's a retired commercial aircraft engineer and therefore has lots of time on his hands.

I can only assume he is measuring the power used by his PSU as that should, logically, be taken into account; as it takes power to generate power in the PSU.

Given that it's DC in and DC out (obviously at different frequencies) and he does not own an oscilloscope this is probably the most accurate way he can currently measure it.

As it stands, using these methods, it appears that the power out exceeds the power in by a little over 2 Watts.

The principle is the same as Joseph Newman's device, which was appraised by a number of scientists and found to be providing excess energy, this was using proper testing methodology, Newman is discussed in this PDF :

http://www.free-energy-info.co.uk/Chapter11.pdf

Someone posted earlier that this isn't an easy DIY project. In fact it's very easy, the relevant links are in qvision's second post on this page :

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/6894-please-replicate.html

I have been working in parallell (though slightly behind) with Tom for nearly a year but have not caught up with his most up-to-date circuit but, due to this latest development, i will certainly be catching up with him as soon as i can.

Damn i've just realised something, he's measuring AC in but DC out, that's not good is it ?


Gary.

[TinselKoala]

I am afraid that in this case I must agree with Omnibus.

Even a cheap surplus oscilloscope would likely provide enough information to make some "bulbs" light up in some heads. Pulsed systems can be very tricky to analyze.