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1 kW zero point energy @ Peswiki.com

Started by Low-Q, February 10, 2011, 07:48:07 AM

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Quote from: neptune on February 10, 2011, 09:40:51 AM
First of all many thanks to Low-Q for starting this thread . I wanted to do it myself , but do not have the necessary computer skills . It seems to me that  Prof Turtur is a very well educated man , and in this article ,he describes the basic theory behind a practical FE motor , first analysing several different designs , and pointing out their shortcomings . He then goes on to describe his final design , which consists of no more than a simple magnet revolving inside a simple coil , across which is connected a capacitor . He goes on to describe the theory of how and why it should work as a motor , and how it could drive a load of 1Kw .
         Obviously there is more to it than that , and he goes on to talk about resonance .[ we have heard that before] Somewhere in the article he suggests a max speed for the magnet rotation of 6000RPM . Now IF I understand him ,the Tank circuit formed by the coil and capacitor must have a resonant frequency of 100 Hz . Because the output of the alternator formed by the magnet and coil will be at 100Hz . Based on what I remember from my Amateur Radio days , This will cause practical problems . Notice that the coil is air cored . So to resonate at this frequency we will need a huge coil and a huge capacitor . Can someone who is good at mathematics work out the value of these components .The other possibility is to tune the circuit to a higher , harmonic frequency , but he does not mention this . Any Ideas?
Frequency = 1 / 2 x PI x (root[C x L])

If the coil (L) are 100mH, then the capacitor (C) will be 25uF at 100Hz resonance. To achieve this capacitor with just two parallell plates, the area would cover a quite big area...

The Q-value should be as high as possible, and will depend on the load, and choise of inductor and capacitor. A lower inductor value, means greater capacitor to achieve same resonant frecuency.

When this circuit are loaded, the Q-value will drop, and it require more energy input to maintain the amplitude of that given frequency. Also a lower Q (Low-Q) will result in a different resonant frequency.

To achieve harmonic frequencies, you need to apply distordtion into the system, a non-linear component can do that. How to implement such a device, I do not know except using a coil with iron core. These coils will generate a significant harmonic distrortion at the point when the iron core are significantly saturated with magnetic flux as the amplitude of the signal increase and more current can flow through the windings.

neptune

@marco. Your comments dont seem to relate to the article in question . Are you sure we are discussing the same article ? I dont see any cans , or sharp edges .

bourne

Quote from: neptune on February 10, 2011, 12:15:55 PM
@marco. Your comments dont seem to relate to the article in question . Are you sure we are discussing the same article ? I dont see any cans , or sharp edges .

@neptune, marco is referring to the video about half way down the peswiki page. The video shows a cut down drinks can which has sharp edges bent out to form vanes.

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neptune

@Low-Q . once again I am indebted to you for your help .Thanks . I f you read the article very carefully , you will see that the capacitor does not have to be just two plates in the final version . The two plates design was for the earlier version . Never the less , we are talking a lot of capacitance at 25mf . An electrolytic capacitor is unsuitable . The author says a "commercial" capacitor is suitable ,but I would think that such a cap would be physically large . Same with the coil . I seem to recall that the author mentions a coil diameter of 7cms . Does anyone have any idea of the number of turns to achieve 100mH on a 7 cm former . As you rightly point out , the aim is a tank circuit with a high Q factor . This brings in to play , I seem to remember , coil shape factor [length/diameter ratio] and also , I think there is an optimum L to C  ratio . I do not say that these problems are insurmountable ,but the author talks about a unit the size of an electric drill . So it is not going to be as easy as building a crystal radio set ... On the other hand , If i built a 1Kw unit the size of a washing machine , I would be quite Happy .

neptune