Practical Method for Production of Water Fuel with Piezoelectric

[superman9976]

You know guys I have been thinking I tried the other day on the weekend to adhere crystals to the bare piece of metal and it doesnt seem the best.  Even tried heat.  Power to be did he get into electrostatic plating at all.  Is that what he meant when he said there's way more to it then just powder coating?  So what spray our zinc crystals onto a material and bake it?  Is that what powder coating is?
I built a joule thief circuit just the way the PDF says too and got it to work.  Wrapped the 1" torroid eight times used 26 gauge wire. 1/4 watt 1K resistor and the transistor they suggest.  The 3 volt blue LED has been running for over 72 hours now. The battery is down to .6 volts.  My brother sees this circuit as similiar to a bedini circuit because of the toroid tapping into the vacuum and barely using any current. 
So with this joule thief circuit we are too make say a crystal plated disc/antenna oscillate in our reaction chamber to gain the desired reaction?   High voltage low current around 43khz?
I borrowed a scope from my brother and purchased other components from radio shack to build what Altrez was talking about.  I will play around with that stuff this weekend and post any questions I have. 
I sent an email to our Mary to see if she offers other frequency transducers besides 40khz and 45khz maybe something in between with low order quantities.
Thanks Guys this is been quite the journey but its definitely been fun so far.
Chris

[Slovenia]

Hi Superman,

Thanks for sharing.  In this particular application, we are using the Joule Thief Circuit as a frequency generator and not as a light, so for our purposes we don't need either the light or the diode.  We are going to be using this circuit to tune in our piezo transducer to the desired frequency.  Also, Altrez has said that we need to also add a heat sink to the equation.

Best Regards,
Slovenia

You know guys I have been thinking I tried the other day on the weekend to adhere crystals to the bare piece of metal and it doesnt seem the best.  Even tried heat.  Power to be did he get into electrostatic plating at all.  Is that what he meant when he said there's way more to it then just powder coating?  So what spray our zinc crystals onto a material and bake it?  Is that what powder coating is?
I built a joule thief circuit just the way the PDF says too and got it to work.  Wrapped the 1" torroid eight times used 26 gauge wire. 1/4 watt 1K resistor and the transistor they suggest.  The 3 volt blue LED has been running for over 72 hours now. The battery is down to .6 volts.  My brother sees this circuit as similiar to a bedini circuit because of the toroid tapping into the vacuum and barely using any current. 
So with this joule thief circuit we are too make say a crystal plated disc/antenna oscillate in our reaction chamber to gain the desired reaction?   High voltage low current around 43khz?
I borrowed a scope from my brother and purchased other components from radio shack to build what Altrez was talking about.  I will play around with that stuff this weekend and post any questions I have. 
I sent an email to our Mary to see if she offers other frequency transducers besides 40khz and 45khz maybe something in between with low order quantities.
Thanks Guys this is been quite the journey but its definitely been fun so far.
Chris

[Slovenia]

I'm still waiting on my parts for the joule thief, frequency generator, as described by Altrez.  I did finally break down and purchase a new function generator yesterday. 

I have the pond fogger waiting for the joule thief circuit before we can test it in the clear acrylic test cell I have.

[superman9976]

Hi Solvenia,

Yes I understand the light function is not used but for my learning I wanted to make sure I could make it work and I did.  It is still running almost 96 hours now.  Im not so sure about the function generator but I did find one for about 125 shipped to my door off ebay.  There's something about the toroid in the joule thief.  My other idea was to make a two stage reaction chamber.  First stage using the fogger transducers to make the water vapor then stage two is too oscillate an antenna in the vapor to further it break down whether its using the joule thief in the way radhho did it or using the pierce oscillator. 

Mary emailed me back and has a transducer that oscillates in between 42khz and 44khz so it seems perfect.  What do you think get a minimum quantity and price?

Chris

[Slovenia]

Hi Superman,

Your JT Light is definitely a success.  Sorry, I just wanted to make sure we were on the same page.

As for Mary's transducers, the shipping is $61 no matter what, so you would be better served buying at least 10 and then selling those you don't want or need.  I'd take two to four of them at this point but after careful consideration, I only want the 45 KHz transducers.  You can always adjust down a bit but it's harder to go up and have it work properly.  There might be some other guys that would be willing to chip in there too if you were interested in doing that.  Romo & Altrez might want some too.  There is a lot of interest in the project still, but most guys are just watching to see how a few of us come out with the experiment before spending their money.  Good Job!!

Best Regards,
Slovenia

Hi Solvenia,

Yes I understand the light function is not used but for my learning I wanted to make sure I could make it work and I did.  It is still running almost 96 hours now.  Im not so sure about the function generator but I did find one for about 125 shipped to my door off ebay.  There's something about the toroid in the joule thief.  My other idea was to make a two stage reaction chamber.  First stage using the fogger transducers to make the water vapor then stage two is too oscillate an antenna in the vapor to further it break down whether its using the joule thief in the way radhho did it or using the pierce oscillator. 

Mary emailed me back and has a transducer that oscillates in between 42khz and 44khz so it seems perfect.  What do you think get a minimum quantity and price?

Chris