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Practical Method for Production of Water Fuel with Piezoelectric

Started by The Power To Be, February 17, 2011, 06:11:02 AM

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superman9976

I tried the copper I had it sit in the hot ammonia which gradually cooled  overnight and the next day the fluid was blue and the crystals didnt seem to adhere too well to it.  I dropped it into some fresh tap water and some of the crystals came with it.  The transducer I dropped intot the middle of the tube.  Now this tube is just a 2" coupler.  I turned it on and it seemed to produce much more then in the past with crystals in the water.  I think the tube was resonanting and improved the effect.  I tried the flame test and no fire.  I still have an unmodded transducer though.

Here is a relevant quote from a meyer article:
The real differences occur in the power supply to the cell. Meyer uses an external
inductance which appears to resonate with the capacitance of the cell --- pure water
apparently possesses a dielectric constant of about 5 --- to produce a parallel

resonant circuit. This is excited by a high power pulse generator which, together with the cell capacitance and a rectifier diode, forms a charge pump circuit. High frequency pulses build a rising staircase DC potential across the electrodes of the

cell until a point is reached where the water breaks down and a momentary high current flows. A current measuring circuit in the supply detects this breakdown and removes the pulse drive for a few cycles allowing the water to "recover".

So if we modify a transducer and have it cycle a frequency range from 43khz to a yet undetermined higher frequency with say a 555 timer circuit and step up the voltage on a 24v transducer to 36v. Have several transducers inside copper/stainless steel tubes in a cell.  This will fracture the bonds?  I will have to read the treatise on electricity and magnetism yet and that might help.

Does any of this sound right?


Oh and solvenia it seems the acoustical horn idea works since production increased by adding a tube.

Chris

Slovenia

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Quote from: superman9976 on March 25, 2011, 12:23:26 AM
I tried the copper I had it sit in the hot ammonia which gradually cooled  overnight and the next day the fluid was blue and the crystals didnt seem to adhere too well to it.  I dropped it into some fresh tap water and some of the crystals came with it.  The transducer I dropped intot the middle of the tube.  Now this tube is just a 2" coupler.  I turned it on and it seemed to produce much more then in the past with crystals in the water.  I think the tube was resonanting and improved the effect.  I tried the flame test and no fire. 

Chris
Great Work Chris:
Suggestion - Take the temp of the water in the cell.  If your frequencies are too high - you might be making a cavitation heater and destroying the crystals.  Place a balloon or surgical glove on the copper and see if it expands and rises.  Hydrogen being lighter than air should fill the balloon given the temp is not a significant change.  It there is a change in temp, you are probably making steam.  My 2 cents worth.  Again - great work
Brad S

Sprocket

Why does everyone seem to be going the route of making Zn0 themselves, rather than just buying the stuff?  It would make sense if this was something that was suppressed and unobtainable, but it's not - it's dirt-cheap, ($11 per Ib, shipping included) high-grade and easily bought online.  And what is this obsession with the piezo's frequency?  Unless I'm mistaken this has nothing to do with 'resonance', all you're looking for is something that will produce lots of 'fog' and I'm sure the piezo manufacturers have already chosen the optimum frequency for the transducer in question to produce this effect.  The premise of this thread is that the piezo/Zn0 combination greatly enhances the production of HHO, yet 20 pages later, not one single confirmation of this - it either works or it doesn't!  And "cavitation" is now entering the fray! Aaaaggghhhh......

Slovenia

Hi Sprocket,

You are right, if we could purchase the crystals ready made it would greatly simplify things.  However, there are some problems with that.  We had one guy purchase some of the zinc crystals somewhere and they turned out to not be what we are looking for here.  The only way to make sure you have the right type of crystals is to make your own according to Power1's instructions.  There are a lot of guys doing this replication, but many are not sharing what they are doing with the others.  That's the problem with these types of forums.  Energetic Forum has the same problem, everyone is off doing their own thing solo.  A few of us are working together here and you will soon see some results posted.  I for one have been archiving and studying all the information posted by Power1 and also doing some other reading, so it's thrown me behind.  Romo is a college student and very busy with his studies.  There are about twenty or so at Energetic doing this experiment too.  Some of us belong to both forums since Power1 isn't able to post on Energetic now.

Best Regards,
Slovenia


Quote from: Sprocket on March 25, 2011, 10:47:46 AM
Why does everyone seem to be going the route of making Zn0 themselves, rather than just buying the stuff?  It would make sense if this was something that was suppressed and unobtainable, but it's not - it's dirt-cheap, ($11 per Ib, shipping included) high-grade and easily bought online.  And what is this obsession with the piezo's frequency?  Unless I'm mistaken this has nothing to do with 'resonance', all you're looking for is something that will produce lots of 'fog' and I'm sure the piezo manufacturers have already chosen the optimum frequency for the transducer in question to produce this effect.  The premise of this thread is that the piezo/Zn0 combination greatly enhances the production of HHO, yet 20 pages later, not one single confirmation of this - it either works or it doesn't!  And "cavitation" is now entering the fray! Aaaaggghhhh......