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Shorting coil gives back more power

Started by romerouk, February 18, 2011, 09:51:45 PM

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gyulasun

#30
February 20, 2011, 06:21:48 PM
Hi Laurent,

Thanks for the nice video, very informative and please could you check that when reed switch shorts the coil then the input current to the motor taken from the power supply changes to a higher value?

Thanks, Gyula

hartiberlin

#31
February 20, 2011, 06:29:10 PM
Very well done Laurant !
Maybe you can just try to use a selfoscillating relay, which closes and opens by itsself by using
a 9 Volts battery on a few other relay pins to drive this relay, so that it opens and closes multiple times
per second and then please show the waveform again on your scope ?

This could replace the reed switch and will be easier, cause you don´t need to hold any
reed switch in your hand.
You can just let it open and close all the time...
does not matter, if it is only at the peak of the amplitude.


Surely you can also use an electronic switch for this purpose and
just drive it with a free running pulse generator.

Many thanks.

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Stefan Hartmann, Moderator of the overunity.com forum

hartiberlin

#32
February 20, 2011, 07:27:01 PM
P.S.
YOu could also use a battery and a series resistor and a coil
like an R L circuit and make the coil have about 100 mA in the DC mode as the current.

Then you can short out the coil very fast on and off across the coil via a mechanical or electronical switch,
so this will also induce many spikes across the coil which could
be captured via a diode into a capacitor.
If you make the coil big enough and the switching frequency fast enough you
should also get more output then input.

Regards, Stefan.
Stefan Hartmann, Moderator of the overunity.com forum

Bruce_TPU

#33
February 20, 2011, 07:28:07 PM
One wonders if a Solid State version could not be made, using an earth battery.  Make and break the two metals of the primary to create AC on the secondary and then short the secondary coil at the Sines peak and dump into a high voltage capacitor.

Just a thought for anyone with a proper wound earth battery.
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.

e2matrix

#34
February 20, 2011, 07:54:57 PM
Quote from: romerouk on February 19, 2011, 08:54:55 AM
Below is the circuit used to do the test.

Hi Romerouk,  That's great getting the battery to charge up while running!  That's big.  It's like having a self charging battery and just what I'm looking for.  I've got to ask a dumb question though and maybe even someone else will know the answer if you're not around.  In your diagram you show one battery and coil.  Is that what is causing the motor to spin?  I see it looks like an old hard drive motor and platter and I notice wires coming off the bottom of your setup.  So just wondering if you are running the HD motor directly or just using that setup as a low friction spinner for your motor running from the side coil sort of like the Bedini SG motor. 

   I was playing with my Bedini SG motor last night using a separate coil (MOT fan coil just like you show) to pick up from the magnets (however mine aren't oriented like yours yet).  When I shorted with a reed switch I could see big spikes on the O-scope.  I tried dumping to a cap but wasn't seeing much over the battery voltage.  It was a quick and dirty setup so I was probably doing something wrong but at least I was seeing the spikes when I held the reed switch close. 
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