Shorting coil gives back more power

[i_ron]

The circuit of the scope shot of the shorting on the peaks hasn't shown up yet. It is zero crossing.
Anybody got an idea for one?
Thinking of using 555s myself.

Yeah GK, I posted mine on message #223

Ron

[giantkiller]

Yeah GK, I posted mine on message #223

Ron

I simulated that with 555s in www.falstad.com
Here is falstad.com model
It is dependant on 44hz. The 555 timing needs modification to accomodate input frequency.
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$ 1 5.0E-6 6.724437240923179 62 5.0 50
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R -32 64 -32 32 0 0 40.0 5.0 0.0 0.0 0.5
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d -256 96 -304 144 1 0.805904783
d -256 96 -208 144 1 0.805904783
d -208 144 -256 192 1 0.805904783
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w -304 64 -304 144 0
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w -192 192 -256 192 0
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g -128 256 -128 304 0
g -80 208 -80 304 0
r -80 176 -80 64 0 4700.0
w -80 64 -32 64 0
162 -32 112 -32 176 1 2.1024259 1.0 0.0 0.0
r -32 64 -32 112 0 100.0
p -128 192 -128 144 0
174 -128 192 -128 256 0 1000.0 0.35150000000000003 Peak bias
w -128 256 -112 256 0
w -112 256 -112 224 0
165 64 96 144 96 2 5.0
w 64 224 64 128 0
w 64 64 128 64 0
w 64 64 16 64 0
c 64 224 64 288 0 1.0E-5 2.8358623894302473
g 64 288 64 320 0
c 128 256 128 288 0 1.0E-5 3.3333333333264257
g 128 288 128 320 0
r 192 128 192 64 0 100.0
w 192 64 128 64 0
174 64 64 32 128 0 1000.0 0.5495000000000001 one shot time
w 64 128 32 96 0
165 336 96 352 96 2 0.0
w 336 192 336 224 0
w 192 64 336 64 0
w 336 64 400 64 0
r 336 64 336 128 0 500.0
r 336 128 336 192 0 500.0
c 336 224 336 288 0 1.0000000000000002E-6 4.31397408759221
g 336 288 336 320 0
c 400 256 400 288 0 1.0E-5 3.3333333333264257
g 400 288 400 320 0
w 400 64 464 64 0
r 464 64 464 128 0 10000.0
M 464 160 496 160 0 2.5
I -32 176 48 176 0 0.5
w 48 176 64 192 0
d 192 160 336 192 1 0.805904783
p 464 160 480 208 0
x 100 167 139 173 0 24 555
x 375 172 414 178 0 24 555
o 4 64 0 35 20.0 0.003125 0 -1
o 49 64 0 34 5.0 9.765625E-5 0 -1
o 21 64 0 34 1.25 9.765625E-5 0 -1
o 53 64 0 34 5.0 9.765625E-5 1 -1

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[i_ron]

I simulated that with 555s in www.falstad.com
Here is falstad.com model
It is dependant on 44hz. The 555 timing needs modification to accomodate input frequency.
do not include quotesdo not include quotes

LOL, afraid that is beyond me

Ron

[tagor]

what do think of this schematic ?

[Feynman]

GK, I don't have the full schematic on paper and am at work anyway, but the shorting basis you can see here:

https://sites.google.com/site/alternativeworldenergy/shorting-coils-circuits

On my rotor setup I used halls, now that I'm using solid state (if you go back a few pages I explained in detail what I'm doing) I use a 555 circuit both to drive the setup and short the generator coil since the impulse happens to be at the same time. I posted my basic 555 circuit a couple pages back, although others have posted other circuits as well. I use that circuit to drive both the drive and shorting fets.

Mario

@popolibero

Thank you , this is EXACTLY what I was looking for.   The one thing that is missing is schematics for 'solid state' coil shorting circuit   , but this is a start.   Thanks.