Rosemary Ainslie circuit demonstration on Saturday March 12th 2011

[Pirate88179]

Mags:

Excellent work!!!  Will we be able to see this in a video sometime soon?  That would be great.

Bill

[poynt99]

hey Rose

Welp, we now have a new high score.

Start with a 10uf cap at 1000v, and we end up with 10uf at 1320v!!

I ran through 3 stages. 4 stages should bring about 2kv in a 10 uf cap. Just from that 1000v 10uf cap. 

Its just ridiculous.   

I need a drink. 

Mags

Magluvin,

You should know as it appears you are unaware, that not only are you off-topic, but the topic of capacitor energy transfer and the so-called "discovery" has been covered a number of times elsewhere in this forum. What you really need before you get that drink, is to obtain a clear understanding of capacitors, capacitor voltage, and the energy stored in them. THEN you will know why and how you are able to charge up these capacitors to higher voltages.

Here are a few links to get you started in your quest:

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=8334.msg210138#msg210138
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=8334.msg210142#msg210142 (read the attached file carefully)
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6090.msg143812#msg143812
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=4419.msg148098#msg148098
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/electric/capeng.html (play with the values and see the effects)

So you may see that you are not the first to have fallen into the trap involving capacitor energy transfer, and likely you won't be the last.

.99

[Magluvin]

Magluvin,

You should know as it appears you are unaware, that not only are you off-topic, but the topic of capacitor energy transfer and the so-called "discovery" has been covered a number of times elsewhere in this forum. What you really need before you get that drink, is to obtain a clear understanding of capacitors, capacitor voltage, and the energy stored in them. THEN you will know why and how you are able to charge up these capacitors to higher voltages.

Here are a few links to get you started in your quest:

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=8334.msg210138#msg210138
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=8334.msg210142#msg210142 (read this file carefully)
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6090.msg143812#msg143812
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=4419.msg148098#msg148098

So you may see that you are not the first to have fallen into the trap involving capacitor energy transfer, and likely you won't be the last.

.99

Hey point

Actually Rose had asked me to post results here, and there are some others paying close attn also. =]

It appears you havnt been paying much attn.    But how could I convince you otherwise, you wont build it.
If you keep believing the formula are correct, then you are doomed.

Let me ask you something. 
If you have a 10uf cap at 10v
How much energy does that cap hold? An ideal cap for simplicity.

Now connect that cap to another empty 10uf cap so that each has 5v.

Now you have 2 10uf caps at 5v = 20uf cap at 5v. 
How much energy is in a 20uf cap at 5v?

If you have calculated anything less than 100% you are wrong. They are wrong. He is out of order, your all out of order!!  lol

Seriously.  I know ya think Im a freak. I dig it.  Im Magfreakinluvin.


Now tell me how much energy is in the 10uf 10v vs 20uf 5v.

After you tell me 50% loss, I will spit on my shoe and shine it with pride, that I know what is what, and you do not.

Run some tests, spice or on the bench, tell me what you see in these questions I propose to you Point.  If you dont you will never know. ;]

Run the 10uf 10v cap through a 100ohm resistor
Then the 20uf 5v cap through a 50ohm resistor
Each will start out at 1A and descending till drained. Tell me how long it took for each instance Point.

I dont know you Point. But I am just showing you the same respect you had just shown me, and I may have learned ya sumthin.  ;]

Buld it, then you can tell me otherwise.  Does anyone agree? Anyone?

Be cordial and so will I. We can be friends and learn new things.

It wont take you long to become a Believer when you try. I have done all the work to get you to the objective. Convert a 10uf at 10v to a 10uf cap at 13v, energy used to do the switching has not been taken from the circuit to keep the ideal function pure, so we know exactly what is in and out through the process. It is done this way all the time.

Point, if you know about what Ive been doing here the last couple weeks, Ive gone through several pains of saying, na, cant be, its all wrong.  Then I climb out of the box for some fresh air, and it is all too clear. Crystal.     You may have to empty your cup for this one. ;]

Its easy. No complex waveforms to debate, no disrespect Rose ;], no measurements that could be denied, just what was in vs what was out.  The text books will have you climbing the walls Point as you see what is going on in this circuit. Once you see that we can take a 10uf cap at 10v and end up with a 10uf cap at 13-14v, will you still question me? For what? I told ya that was the objective. Where will I have been wrong then, in any way?

We can be cool about this. Its up to you.  ;]

Mags

[evolvingape]

Its easy. No complex waveforms to debate, no disrespect Rose ;], no measurements that could be denied, just what was in vs what was out.

Mags

That's all people have been asking for since day one... still waiting... lots of diversions and misdirections... but no honest answers...

RM

[Magluvin]

hey Pirate

Im working on it. The way you lay out circuits means a lot when considering options. ;]  But have come up with a way by just having 3 circuits in a row. When the first cap is loaded to say 1000v, that is all the energy that will be transferred from beginning to end, no other outside input. Each stage will lower the source caps voltage down to about .7 of the source, and the flywheel takes care of filling the receiver to the same voltage as the source. Now we have 2 caps at .7 of the source. Double the capacitance for the next stage source.
The rest is in my last couple posts in the igniter thread. I should have something this week. =]

Thanks Evolvingape.   I hope that was a positive post. ;]

Mags