Rosemary Ainslie circuit demonstration on Saturday March 12th 2011

[Rosemary Ainslie]

Guys - I need to explain something here.   And you really ned to understand it.  Proper measurement of electric energy is based on vi dt.  This requires the calculation - the product - of volts and amps in real time.  The minute one takes the average of the amperage over a certain period of time multiplied by the average of the voltage over a certain period of time - then one is actually only pointing to an average.  It may very well be a fair reflection of the fact - very much as you can average the global temperature - but it tells you NOTHING about the temperature at any precise point.  IF we measured electrical energy as an average - then it could be entirely misrepresented. 

Here's an example.  You can take the sum of the voltage across the shunt over - say - 1 minute - and then multiply it by the sum of the battery voltage over that same minute - and it will give a result that is only 'close' to but not 'representative of' the actual energy delivered or dissipated.  It will certainly HIDE the benefits in phase relationships between those voltages - and it may either enhance or fudge the actual facts.  Poynty is relying on this.  He is hoping that your own lack of knowledge of detailed measurements is such that he can carry his argument.  But pick up your phones.  Talk to your academics.  They're very approachable.  They'll explain how it is that any measurment based on an average - is absolutely NOT acceptable.  What is more - our own evidence shows that there are those relationships between the voltages that are ENTIRELY hidden by an average.  I've not even touched on that side of the evidence yet.  But Poynty et al - thay know of this.  And this NEED TO AVERAGE is therefore also MUCH NEEDED.  Else they'll have no argument.

We're here dealing with a really sophisticated effort to diffuse the efficacy of these forums.  And it's actually where the real energy pollution is. 

Regards,
Rosemary

[WilbyInebriated]

the JREF is a biased farce... and so is randi's "challenge".

[Rosemary Ainslie]

the JREF is a biased farce... and so is randi's "challenge".

Hi Wilby.  Always nice to see you here.  There's a machine in a museum someplace - I've seen a picture of it.  It's housed in a glass case.  Do you know of it? 

Anyway - perhaps it's as well to mention Bessler's machine?  I believe that worked.  But I absolutely do NOT claim perpetual motion.  I wish I could.  I only claim absolute conservation of charge.  And that's a completely different argument.

Here's one link that I found.

http://pesn.com/2006/06/27/9500287_Bessler_gravity_documentation/

Kindest regards,
Rosie

[WilbyInebriated]

Hi Wilby.  Always nice to see you here.  There's a machine in a museum someplace - I've seen a picture of it.  It's housed in a glass case.  Do you know of it? 

Anyway - perhaps it's as well to mention Bessler's machine?  I believe that worked.  But I absolutely do NOT claim perpetual motion.  I wish I could.  I only claim absolute conservation of charge.  And that's a completely different argument.

Here's one link that I found.

http://pesn.com/2006/06/27/9500287_Bessler_gravity_documentation/

Kindest regards,
Rosie

hi rose. good to see you too! i believe you are thinking of the clarendon dry pile (oxford bell)
http://atlasobscura.com/place/oxford-electric-bell

you see the thing with randi is that he is only prepared to "debunk" "unpopular" claims... there are plenty of extraordinary claims out there that randi shows no interest in debunking... like the big bang theory, like the general theory of relativity, etc. yet he seems to show no concern (at least not the same level of concern he applies to "paranormal" claims. as an aside, i find this deliciously amusing. after all, what could be more paranormal than "first there was nothing, then it exploded") that billions of dollars are being hoodwinked from tax payers to fund the 11+ billion LHC and that billions are being hoodwinked from students via tuition only to have teachers teach them "first there was nothing, then it exploded"... HA what a farce!

and i have to comment on humboogers "Rosemary's Baby ~ a Short Story by Way of Analogy" from yOUR.com with a little analogy of my own.

humbooger's pickle ~ a short story by way of analogy
humbooger "Take the division 64/16. Now, canceling a 6 on top and a six on the bottom, we get that 64/16 = 4/1 = 4."

rosemary "Wait a second ! You can't just cancel the six !"

humbooger "Oh, so you're telling us 64/16 is not equal to 4, are you ?"

[Rosemary Ainslie]

hi rose. good to see you too! i believe you are thinking of the clarendon dry pile (oxford bell)
http://atlasobscura.com/place/oxford-electric-bell

you see the thing with randi is that he is only prepared to "debunk" "unpopular" claims... there are plenty of extraordinary claims out there that randi shows no interest in debunking... like the big bang theory, like the general theory of relativity, etc. yet he seems to show no concern (at least not the same level of concern he applies to "paranormal" claims. as an aside, i find this deliciously amusing. after all, what could be more paranormal than "first there was nothing, then it exploded") that billions of dollars are being hoodwinked from tax payers to fund the 11+ billion LHC and that billions are being hoodwinked from students via tuition only to have teachers teach them "first there was nothing, then it exploded"... HA what a farce!

and i have to comment on humboogers "Rosemary's Baby ~ a Short Story by Way of Analogy" from yOUR.com with a little analogy of my own.

humbooger's pickle ~ a short story by way of analogy
humbooger "Take the division 64/16. Now, canceling a 6 on top and a six on the bottom, we get that 64/16 = 4/1 = 4."

rosemary "Wait a second ! You can't just cancel the six !"

humbooger "Oh, so you're telling us 64/16 is not equal to 4, are you ?"

What a pleasure.  My first laugh in a long time. 
Thanks for this.



BTW I've just seen that link.  It's not the one I'm thinking of - BUT HOW GOOD IS THAT?  Nice reminder there Wilby - EVEN PERPETUAL MOTION's in the bag.