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Joerg Raimund Hempel and his Ionic Magnetic Power IMP CAP Charging

Started by hartiberlin, March 03, 2011, 08:08:48 PM

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neptune

@gauschor. I am pleased that you have found , in the patent where it says that the cells/battery will work in the discharged or the charged condition. So it is probably not normal current we are dealing with . As a German speaker , you may be able to help this thread along by contacting the inventor ? From the patent diagrams it is not easy to work out the best relationship between the cells and the magnetic field or fields .In one diagram , as you say , we have a long bar magnet running alongside a row of cells . In the diagram with the coil , we have two opposing coils with a SNNS set up . and finally we have the magnetic strips , where the lines of force run at right angles to the length of the cells , rather than parallel as in the first two arrangements . Only experiment will show which , if any , works best . Patent drawings are often drawn by non technical draughtsmen , and are often confusing , sometimes deliberately so .

wattsup

Quote from: neptune on March 08, 2011, 09:53:12 AM
@Wattsup . It is almost always hard to follow a new technology . But human nature , and the love of money may be easier to understand . This patent , if the claims are real ,is    
worth several million dollars . But an investor is going to want to see more than a written patent and a crappy video . He will want independent validation as a minimum . Why spend time and a lot of money starting something that is bound to end in tears? If we can answer that question , everything else will become easy .

@neptune

You would not believe what investors are willing to do to get in on some action at such a ground level. It is cut-throat tactics, whatever it takes to get in before the next guy. And in the end, if it fails, most investors will say "it's only money!!!!".

@all

If anyone is speaking with the inventor, we need to know the wire type and gauge he used to create the short circuits on the load cap. If the inventor has nothing to hide, he should not object to providing this information. Then if someone can go out, get the wire and if they already have a 1 Farad capacitor and try it out. A dc power supply that goes up to 32 volts can charge up the capacitor. Then short the wire on the cap and see the reaction. This one experiment will say it all. Before that is done, there is no real point in starting all these theories.

Due diligence is a must for all such devices. I don't really care about investors monies since that is their problem with whom they decide to invest. But I do care about wasting time and guys have given us the grand story so many times that we have lost our ability to question, to observe, to logically deliberate on what is presented in order to make a sound judgment call on the feasibility of such demos.

I almost fell into the same trap because I immediately had my own theory on how the magbat is working, given what I saw on the surface of things. I was just about to post something when I looked again at the video. But this time I decided to use my VirtualDubMod software that let's me get in so close to the movements. I saw a bright reflection when he took off the magbat and that is when I realize I need to look at this much much closer.

Anyways, I am really sorry to have pushed the thread into a deeper initial look.

wattsup

PS: If anyone can read the German patent, does it specifically talk about the feed source. Not the magnet/battery but the actual feed power supply required, because there is nothing in the drawings showing a feed source such as is shown in his video.


gauschor

Wanted to try the experiment, unfortunately my collection of capacitors only reach together reaches 2.000µF only, which is way too less. Also I don't got any magnet stripes but lots of magnets bar only. Needless to say that putting magnets in diverse arrangements on a "badly conditioned accu" didn't change anything. However this was not a replication, by no means. I guess you really need a clean setup...
A check on the available shops showed me that the cost for reproducing this setup would cost at least ~ 200â,¬ (60â,¬ for a capacitor that size and 60â,¬ for each of the magnet stripes Type A and Type B). To invest that money this device should really be proven first.

Regarding contacting him: I thought Stefan has already said in one of his posts, that he has contact to one of his spokesman? @wattsup: the diameter of the copper wire is 0.2mm as he claims in the video. Besides everything else available has already been said and translated in this topic, so we are not really missing any points.
Also I agree that his setup in the patents is not exactly the same as in the video and therefore maybe some hidden changes took place he didn't mention yet.

neptune

@Wattsup. You said you are sorry to have pushed the thread into a deeper initial look . There is nothing to be sorry about , and your video analysis and perceptive examination are , I am sure , valued by all . The comments about desperate investors was very revealing .I once had a home made conjuring trick , where two rollers appeared to print banknotes . It taught me a lot about human nature . I could have sold it many times for up to £1000 , but I know I could not run fast enough .
           It is possible that the charge signal effect uses what has been called "cold electricity " . Does anyone know a simple and reliable source of cold electricity ,which could be used to charge lead acid batteries ? That sounds a bit like the Bedini energiser , but so many people have tried to replicate that , without success .

wattsup

Quote from: gauschor on March 09, 2011, 05:47:56 AM
@wattsup: the diameter of the copper wire is 0.2mm as he claims in the video. Besides everything else available has already been said and translated in this topic, so we are not really missing any points.Also I agree that his setup in the patents is not exactly the same as in the video and therefore maybe some hidden changes took place he didn't mention yet.

@gauschor

Are you absolutely sure he said 0.2 mm diameter. This equals a wire of 32 American Wire Gauge (AWG). If that is true then this is all totally a real joke. A 32 AWG is nothing wire. That 1 Farad capacitor loaded to 20 volts should have killed that wire in 1/2 a second of shorting it. I mean totally blown up. Not just glowing like it did. There is no way that capacitor had all that power inside of it.

Well I think this goose it cooked. I really hoped that there was something there but unfortunately, that video is just one more joke in the Laugh-In series.

I think if the inventor is serious, he will have to make another video and put all his cards on the table and not try to play games. If there is an effect to learn from this device, his video did not do the job.

wattsup