The Gabriel Device, possible COP=8

[forest]

Dear OU
Greetings.My device http://www.google.com/patents?id=-ntZAAAAEBAJ&pg=PP1&source=gbs_selected_pages&cad=2#v=onepage&q&f=false
COP related to shield reluctance and input current.

N. Tesla 

[kampen]

@ All,     

UPDATED MESSAGE POOLING ORDER parts for Gabriel Device.

anyone interested and located in EUROPE for a purchase order for the 2 pcs. Toroid Magnet Housing (L&S Industries USA) feel free to contact me by PM.

Ofcourse we can also pool the order for the M-416 (81649) Toroid Core from Magnetec/Germany.
Pooling can save us a lot of money on shipping/handling fees and on taxes.

I can collect/handle all European orders and then make one volume purchase order to L&S Industries, so we can get this cheaper if he sets it up for all interested at the same time and item cost (price is quantity dependent).

Upon receipt I will re-mail it within the European Postal Zone free of shipping charge to You.

Hope this will be any help, let me know.
You can contact me by PM or at: achjansen@yahoo.com

[SkyWatcher123]

Hi folks, read the whole thread so far, looks promising.
I'm going to build a very small test setup using steel craft wire for the primary shell and ferrite inner toroid, just for fun, we'll see what happens.

Also, I thought about the secondary and its flux field when powering a load.

Since the primary input decreases and the coils are wound the same direction, maybe this is acting like a motor with magnets.

Meaning the secondaries loaded induced flux field is creating a strong enough repulsion zone at the steel primary shell to cause voltage cancellation and reduction in input current, yet at the same time a balance is occurring.
Maybe similar to how two like polarity magnets can attract a piece of iron. Though in the gabriel device, if the primary shell is over saturated by the secondary load flux, then it starts to cause increase of input.
just a few thoughts. Thanks mav, hope this thing pans out.
peace love light
Tyson

[TheCell]

I am looking for that steel donut here in Germany or UK (because of the tax). any links ?

[Feynman]

@all

I spoke to a good friend of mine, and he agrees that there is around 50/50 chance this device works overunity vs a kilo-watt meter measurement error.  So we'll have to test more to see.

The measurement error, if it occurs, i likely because the kil-o-watt meter may be tricked by the inductive reactance of the primary.  My friend with the suggestions posted here, he agrees that putting the proper value capacitor , in parallel , across the primary coil inputs will solve the problem (bring the voltage / current phase to zero offset in both heating element resistor and the primary).  Then the Kill-O-Watt meter will not be tricked no matter what if we do this.

So next step I think is replications and measurements of the voltage drop and the resistance of the 'toaster' (or whatever other current limiting device is used) in series with the primary.  This will let us calculate a proper value for the capacitor c, then we can order one from Digikey and put it across the primary to make sure we are not having measurement error.

Another way to test this (exclude measurement error from inductive reactance) is turn off everything in your house except one circuit breaker, and run the device by itself , and run the device powering loads for a period of time (say 60seconds or 120seconds or whatever)..   Then measure the energy consuming on the meter to the power company.

This will exclude the possibility of inductive reactance , and if it does , then we likely have true overunity .