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The Gabriel Device, possible COP=8

Started by Feynman, March 22, 2011, 04:07:09 PM

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e2matrix

I'll correct what I said earlier about light dimmers.  They use either SCR's or Triac's and rather than pulsed DC I believe they use chopped AC.  Think of a sine wave with vertical sections of it chopped out.  So more like pulsed AC.  Having refreshed my memory on that it looks like it could have very interesting uses since it's slamming the power on and off suddenly in a way that looks like it will create vibrations and perhaps back EMF in some cases.  I remember how some light bulb filaments would vibrate from a dimmer that was turned way down. 

Magluvin

Quote from: ramset on March 22, 2011, 10:40:56 PM
Mav
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Aye, Im just trying to help everyone get a good result is all plus new ideas is what makes it better and better and better.

with a light weight power source anything is pretty much possible.

Mav
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Mav
The stuff dreams are made of [light weight power ]!
Thanks a million for your efforts here!
Of course Wayne and Feynman also!

Chet

hey Chet

Who is Mav?

Mags

ramset

Mags
This is Mav [Mavendex post 7 and 14 this thread]
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I have them made here in Kearney Nebraska from L&S industries
4100 East 39th Street Kearney, NE 68847-3987
(308) 236-5853 you will want to talk to Jeff. the part is like 25 bucks you
will need two of them tho.

You can select your metal as well.
The tooling has been paid for... so just order it. no need to make it hard.

The M-416 with about 1000feet of 16awg wire will fit perfectly in the new part. "Like a glove."

You can select your metal as well.
The tooling has been paid for... so just order it. no need to make it hard.
Mav
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The Inventer.


Chet
Whats for yah ne're go bye yah
Thanks Grandma

teslaalset

Just a remark on open sourcing this.
It's absolutely nice that the inventor wants to share this, but keep in mind that Thane's patent may still be applicable here.
So, if this one is successful, be aware of that.

wayne49s

I've been looking a bit more in detail how the device is suppose to work, and I don't believe this device works according to Thane's approach. To avoid the BEMF to the primary, Thane's approach was to move some of the magnetic flux from the secondary to a separate core (the secondary core). This requires that the secondary coil be wound over the 2 cores as pictured above. If you look at the Garbriel device, it is exactly the opposite; it is the primary core that encapsulates the 2 cores concentrically. According to Faraday's law, the magnetic flux from the secondary coil will impact and generate a BEMF in the primary coil since the primary coil turns are wrapped over the secondary core also.

If we were to apply Thane's approach to the toroid configuration, the primary and secondary coils would be switched (i.e. the primary on the inside toroid), and the higher permeability core on the outside also. In this way the outside secondary core would absorb most of the secondary flux and not impact on the interior primary coil to generate the BEMF.

Assuming we can replicate the results, it may be a lot tougher to explain how the device works, lol! If anyone sees something wrong in the analysis, let me know.

/Wayne