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The Gabriel Device, possible COP=8

Started by Feynman, March 22, 2011, 04:07:09 PM

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e2matrix

Quote from: Aphasiac on April 27, 2011, 07:43:31 PM
Edit:

Deleted... patent chatter. ;) 

Well I caught you before you deleted :)   I know I said I was done on that too but since you brought this up: "That document is truly disturbing, if not the least bit surprising. I can't help but to question its authenticity, however."  I had to wonder myself if I had researched that document when I got it.  I think I did but just to validate it I dug a little deeper and you can see right here on the uspto.gov web site reference to it in the first paragraph of this document:  www.uspto.gov/web/offices/com/sol/foia/comm/other/08472066.pdf 
It's for REAL and yes it's disturbing. 

e2matrix

Quote from: Mavendex on April 27, 2011, 07:56:32 PM
As you look at the shell with your wires sticking out faceing you I start at 12 oclock wrap to the left towards yourself the secondary should also be wound like this.

experiment, this works for me. I would use a smaller gauge wire on the primary windings so far at the sweet spot is 97 not sure yet about smaller wire but it should be about the same since the inductance will go up but then again Im not useing tinned wire anymore because it seems to saturate the outercore too quickly, we will see if there is a difference but in my experience thus far there is a difference between tinned wire and magnet wire, but this will be the tell all for sure.

Mav
Thanks Mav and glad your still with us after all the patent fussing.  I just wanted you to have the info if you didn't already know all of that.  You are a good man. 
    And thanks twinbeard for easing my concern that the PTB could keep this from us just by way of the Nanoperm cores.  This is shaping up to be a potential game changer. 

Aphasiac

Quote from: e2matrix on April 27, 2011, 08:07:03 PM
here on the uspto.gov web site reference to it in the first paragraph of this document:  www.uspto.gov/web/offices/com/sol/foia/comm/other/08472066.pdf 
It's for REAL and yes it's disturbing.

@E2: I had a look myself without so much luck.  So thanks for digging that up and also, for asking my question about the winding. :)
The real voyage of discovery consists not in seeking new landscapes, but in having new eyes. --Proust

matthewklinko

Quote from: Mavendex on April 27, 2011, 07:56:32 PM
As you look at the shell with your wires sticking out faceing you I start at 12 oclock wrap to the left towards yourself the secondary should also be wound like this.

experiment, this works for me. I would use a smaller gauge wire on the primary windings so far at the sweet spot is 97 not sure yet about smaller wire but it should be about the same since the inductance will go up but then again Im not useing tinned wire anymore because it seems to saturate the outercore too quickly, we will see if there is a difference but in my experience thus far there is a difference between tinned wire and magnet wire, but this will be the tell all for sure.

Mav

Mavendex I still don't understand how the toroid and shell are wound, I have attached two examples:
Clockwise, and Counter Clockwise
please advise
http://www.kitsandparts.com/minikits/toroid-cw.jpg
http://www.kitsandparts.com/minikits/toroid-ccw.jpg

Matthew

Mavendex

Quote from: matthewklinko on April 27, 2011, 09:28:43 PM
Mavendex I still don't understand how the toroid and shell are wound, I have attached two examples:
Clockwise, and Counter Clockwise
please advise
http://www.kitsandparts.com/minikits/toroid-cw.jpg
http://www.kitsandparts.com/minikits/toroid-ccw.jpg

Matthew

CCW