The Gabriel Device, possible COP=8

[JouleSeeker]

RE:
It look like I have some good news...
Test was with amplifier, at 24 Volts input.
Observation:
1) It seems the output power depend directly of the input current...
2) The secondary current seems to be constant at all load...
3) The best result was when I don't saturate the inner, (inner was at more or less 1 Tesla)...
4) Two test was made: one with 100 Hz and another with 250 Hz...
5) At 100 Hz the output the bulb more brighter than input bulb.
6) At 250 Hz the input bulb was off but the output was gloomy.
7) If I up frequency the output become darker.
8 ) It seems to have an asymmetric, unproportional current between input and output...
9) Traditional transformer windings ratio doesn't work here, 12V 100 turns will not turns into 24V 200 turns for example !!!

Hypothesis:

1) I think is better to not saturate the inner.
2) To increase output with no input, I think to wind more turns at secondary OR
3) The FE effect is not related to Heins effect but rather a phase difference between primary and secondary, more the shell is thick more you have phase difference, at 90° you can put any load you want the input will remain zero..
4) OR both phenomena described above...

Now Photos !!!

Congratulations!  I stand behind you.

  WAY behind you in this Xformer development (but see photo of my electronics bench this morning -- at least I'm working on it, climbing the learning curve).

I have an ATTEN DSO, cost me about $350 including shipping (Ebay), shown in the photo.

QUESTION:  what do you fellows think is the BEST way to make quantitative measurements of Power-in and Power-Out, for this device?

[broli]

QUESTION:  what do you fellows think is the BEST way to make quantitative measurements of Power-in and Power-Out, for this device?

With your equipment it's quite simple. You can store the ATTEN dso data on some usb stick, load it in in a spreadsheet application, multiply current and voltage and determine the mean of the resulting graph. This will give you the exact real power irregardless of wave form or power factor. Do this for both input and output and you'll have your COP. You can share your data if you want others to double check the analysis.

[Hope]

Ahha!!!! Great news you bunch of winners, thanks from the rest of us who have been working alone side.  Hooray!

[JouleSeeker]

With your equipment it's quite simple. You can store the ATTEN dso data on some usb stick, load it in in a spreadsheet application, multiply current and voltage and determine the mean of the resulting graph. This will give you the exact real power irregardless of wave form or power factor. Do this for both input and output and you'll have your COP. You can share your data if you want others to double check the analysis.

OK -- thanks, I can do this.    I was thinking of a "non-oscilloscope" method, but I think you're right that this may be the best way.    My little ATTEN also has a "multiply" function which I've used to get the power from V(t)*I(t) for other circuits -- it shows the POWER = V(t)*I(t) waveform, but does not calculate mean or rms for you....  but I can compare areas!  Also, I can use the spreadsheet method you describe.

[SchubertReijiMaigo]

@ Mags: Yeah I know this, I have read decade of times this patent LOL, I have the constant current at all load phenomena, now the deal is to test the two theories: The FE is when I have more and more voltage by winding turns at secondary, for example 12V 1 amp input 120Volts 1 amp output, or the phase difference, at 90° no matter load the input current will remain same (the BEMF help entirely the primary instead fighting...)

@ Mav: 120 years until someone reinvented something similar and test it, he he !

@ Broli, sorry I don't understand how to measure accurately the power with a DSO, I 'am not skilled at this, but investigate to buy the cheap DSO in the link above...