The Gabriel Device, possible COP=8

[Mavendex]

@Mags

its more of a trade off from what I gather on the secondary turns, its like watt tradeing, x amount of volts will transfer in to x amount of amps up to when you run out of voltage to trade. By stepping up your voltage it seems you can pull some good amps but the smaller the wire you go well then the less amps you can handle.

With 3.5 ohms of 14 gauge wire I was able to create 7 amps at 110 volts on the secondary which made the transformer about 78%, but if you just draw 2.5 amps and increase power the voltage will fly high and you will go over cause your not causing anymore bmf with the increased amperage out. Its strictly magnetisim, so to counter BEMF cause the nanoperm can only hold so much we lower our current and stack on volts. and volts play a small part in the magnetic environment.

same length of secondary with 16 guage about 5.2ohms, Slightly different voltage to amperage trade off is there but now you have a ton more voltage to play with, still can't seem to hit that magic mark of 1000 volts.

So now Im trying that with 21 gauge about 17.8 ohms it should handle 2 amps or so and dropping on the same length of wire, if the case is true then we can scale down the model and possibly get some high temp wire and go for like 10k volts and a couple of amps.

Nice to hear about the ac in a box that is exciting

[Mavendex]

@ All: just finished to wind my 35 turns...
Made some test at 12 VAC 50 Hz, in short the result was exactly the same of the precedent EXP...

Some remind of the protocol (Vers 1.3)
1) Same turns number primary and secondary.
2) Same bulbs and same filament...
3) Same input generator (test with amplifier will be tomorrow, because now I'm tired and the end of the day...)
4) Winding is BOTH CW, BUT winding direction is different (the inner core is toward the INTERIOR and the outer core is toward the EXTERIOR...)


So like Mav said above a version with high voltage will be preferred, if not then phase difference phenomena and increase thickness shell, I wait for my 2kg 16 AWG magnet wire...

@ Mav: 1600 feet by hand: a new record 
You should be have a high voltage here, but did you notice the poor voltage regulation at the secondary if you place a heavy load voltage start to droop, if you place more heavy load or short circuit the primary start to draw some current also !!!

@ Mag:
Common mistake about trafo: no, less turns into primary will saturate the inner also, because of the nature of AC input which is totally different from DC magnetisation, more turns = more inductance = more impedance = lesser current = lesser magnetisation of the core...

And saturation of the inner core give me bad result with my current version (more current flowing in the primary bulb than the  secondary one then wasted energy)

I thought you were counterwinding the coils, one clockwise and one ccw. good test!

Also yes I did notice how the trade got worse as the more amps you pulled, but when you get your meter you will see that the heavier the load on the secondary your powerfactor will drop also or make it more reactive it least thats the way it works with what ive been useing. If you add turns to the primary it will also lower the powerfactor or make it more reactive.

[broli]

This might be an experiment that doesn't tell that much but I'm curious to know what the inductance difference would be between just measuring the inductance on the outer coil and measuring the same coil while you saturate the inner coil with DC current.

[SchubertReijiMaigo]

@ Mav:

I thought you were counterwinding the coils, one clockwise and one ccw. good test tho

No, sorry, I' will test it also CW inner CCW outer, but both exterior toward interior (since it doesn't make effect...)

SRM.

[Hope]

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