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Overunity Machines Forum



The Gabriel Device, possible COP=8

Started by Feynman, March 22, 2011, 04:07:09 PM

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SchubertReijiMaigo

@ Clanzer: where do you have bought this shell ? Your version look like greater than mine, and you can wind a lot of turns, this version look like to have potential to produce more power. You live in US or Europe ?

Magluvin

I found some iron wire at an Ace hardware that seemed to be very attractive(had to buy) to the magnets I brought with me. ;]  Looks to be maybe 28awg, compared to some 26 awg I have here.  measured .022in.  and the 26awg measured .025.  I left the packaging at work. Ill get the info on Monday as to what and who on the wire.  It was $4.99.


Also, JB weld is magnetic. The 2 part squeeze tubes, the "steel" is, the hardener isnt.  But the JB weld epoxy putty stick, like a filled tootsie roll, both parts are magnetic. 

The JB weld products are not magnetic champions to say the least. But Im sure more iron can be added to it.  Im using it to be the foundation for my wire cores.  Im figuring  and devising ways(tools) to make the cores neat and consistent.  And the JB should help fill tiny gaps between wires. 

First Im making a rig to straighten lengths of the wire. Then the wire pieces get thin coats of spray paint then dry, and cut to length.

Its just a way of doin my own thing.  If the wire cores worked for tesla, Im game.

Im going to make the  inner core tomorrow  and see how it works as a core.  Once I consider and wind it, ill cover the sec. with a thin layer of flat plastic film, like bubble pack plastic but thin. Then make my outer core on that so it will slide off when dry. This way my proximity will be good with changeability. ;]  Ill come up with better ways as I go. 

Im going for small here. Not worried about killowatts till I know we got it all down pat.  Plus it costs a lot to go big at first. 

Im thinking a 1/2  in. dia core 3 to 4 in long. After it dries I can level the ends off if need be. 

Im considering making 1, 2 and 3 layer outer cores just to get it over with then play.  I think it will be a good project.

And I will be using an old school Soundstream amp to drive it using the pc as a signal.  Fun Fun Fun.  ;]

Mags



Mavendex

Quote from: Magluvin on August 26, 2011, 07:56:29 PM
I found some iron wire at an Ace hardware that seemed to be very attractive(had to buy) to the magnets I brought with me. ;]  Looks to be maybe 28awg, compared to some 26 awg I have here.  measured .022in.  and the 26awg measured .025.  I left the packaging at work. Ill get the info on Monday as to what and who on the wire.  It was $4.99.


Also, JB weld is magnetic. The 2 part squeeze tubes, the "steel" is, the hardener isnt.  But the JB weld epoxy putty stick, like a filled tootsie roll, both parts are magnetic. 

The JB weld products are not magnetic champions to say the least. But Im sure more iron can be added to it.  Im using it to be the foundation for my wire cores.  Im figuring  and devising ways(tools) to make the cores neat and consistent.  And the JB should help fill tiny gaps between wires. 

First Im making a rig to straighten lengths of the wire. Then the wire pieces get thin coats of spray paint then dry, and cut to length.

Its just a way of doin my own thing.  If the wire cores worked for tesla, Im game.

Im going to make the  inner core tomorrow  and see how it works as a core.  Once I consider and wind it, ill cover the sec. with a thin layer of flat plastic film, like bubble pack plastic but thin. Then make my outer core on that so it will slide off when dry. This way my proximity will be good with changeability. ;]  Ill come up with better ways as I go. 

Im going for small here. Not worried about killowatts till I know we got it all down pat.  Plus it costs a lot to go big at first. 

Im thinking a 1/2  in. dia core 3 to 4 in long. After it dries I can level the ends off if need be. 

Im considering making 1, 2 and 3 layer outer cores just to get it over with then play.  I think it will be a good project.

And I will be using an old school Soundstream amp to drive it using the pc as a signal.  Fun Fun Fun.  ;]

Mags

If you wanna go for a mix of yum yum domains to play with, I would go halves with you on http://www.vivenano.com/MagnetiteSpecs.pdf just add water then add the jbweld mix to it for any application.

its 500 bones but we get 50 grams a piece of some surfactant in place non aggregating ferrofluid that's not combustible.

Magluvin

Looks like good stuff.  Not sure the function of the water. Will have too look more into it. 

From what I understand, if we have perfect permeability in the core, the field caused by the wire will ALL be attracted to the core, no expansion beyond the core. 

Makes me wonder if we are working with anything close to it ever. If what is said is correct, if we wound a coil on a cylinder core, would there be an external N and S field at each end?  If there is, does it necessarily mean that the N and S fields extending from the core are definitely from the wire, or is it just because the cores domains are lined up at the time?  ;]

Is high permeability absolutely necessary to get what we are looking for?  Apparently not and hopefully saturation values count for a lot in our case.

Im guna look more into the powder.  ;]  Nano.  would have to handle "very" responsibly.


Mags

SchubertReijiMaigo

QuoteIs high permeability absolutely necessary to get what we are looking for?  Apparently not and hopefully saturation values count for a lot in our case.

Did you mean for inner core ?
If so, I don't know what happen here, maybe more current at secondary without reflection ? (since it's very hard for the BEMF to magnetize).
It's curious that Tesla used a bunch of iron wire to make his core and shield, something with a permeability about a few hundreds µ not more...