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Overunity Machines Forum



The Gabriel Device, possible COP=8

Started by Feynman, March 22, 2011, 04:07:09 PM

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Cheap4All

Anyone know where you can get some foil, in particular Permalloy Foil ?... as per the example on this site:
http://www.gitc21.net/co/e-song/GC01914596/CA01878439/Permalloy_Foil.html

They make it, but I don't know of anywhere that sells it ?
I want to try this out instead of using a donut so as to get very close to the secondary. Might need to roll it around several times to get better thickness tho.

forest

For testing I propose ferrite core in cup shape as a shield. It is small so you don't pay too much, only need to fit nano core into it. and windings like 0.5mm copper enameled

Mavendex

Quote from: SchubertReijiMaigo on August 31, 2011, 04:45:37 AM
Beware with this, this kind of cheap meter don't measure deformed current (saturated trafos) switched power power supply) it's designed to work at or nearly 120 volts and 50 or 60 Hertz...
It's not a true wattmeter, Beware of false value !!!

your right its not the best meter but it works

and yes the meter will work with less than 120 volts, it doesn't actually start working untill you input 47 volts after that shes pretty good.

Magluvin

Hey Mav

The nano powder you suggested, is it the best that you know of? 

Was it 50 g?   It would be just below a couple ounces each.


Hey Broli

Some type of epoxy would have to be used to hold it together(the powder).  I dont think compressing would do any good once its a fluid(putty) and least  if any bubbles. I think high ppm of the power per solidifier would be the best for our needs.

Im looking at some 2 part that is high heat( coils will heat up). Has to be baked from what I read. And those parameters of baking will probably change with the powder material being a majority of the mix. Putty.

But that stuff will come later if heat issues show up. Im looking for a thin resin mix rather than thick to ensure a mix that is workable to avoid bubbles.
Lol if we git any extree out, we could use some for water cooling for continuous use if necessary.  ;]



Mav, your core, have you tried putting a magnet to it to feel the attraction, as compared to other things like iron, etc.?

Mags

Mavendex

Quote from: Magluvin on August 31, 2011, 12:43:10 PM
Hey Mav

The nano powder you suggested, is it the best that you know of? 

Was it 50 g?   It would be just below a couple ounces each.


Hey Broli

Some type of epoxy would have to be used to hold it together(the powder).  I dont think compressing would do any good once its a fluid(putty) and least  if any bubbles. I think high ppm of the power per solidifier would be the best for our needs.

Im looking at some 2 part that is high heat( coils will heat up). Has to be baked from what I read. And those parameters of baking will probably change with the powder material being a majority of the mix. Putty.

But that stuff will come later if heat issues show up. Im looking for a thin resin mix rather than thick to ensure a mix that is workable to avoid bubbles.
Lol if we git any extree out, we could use some for water cooling for continuous use if necessary.  ;]



Mav, your core, have you tried putting a magnet to it to feel the attraction, as compared to other things like iron, etc.?

Mags

@ Mags - Yes thats the best powder I know of they sell in bundles of 100 grams a pop and that is 500 dollars if im not mistaken, the idea on this with your epoxy mix would to first make the ferrofluid, then mix it with the epoxy. the nanopowder will make around 10 gallons of weak ferrofluid or 1 gallon of some very awesome ferrofluid, The idea of making the fluid first would be to take advantage of the sodium polyacrulate (surfactant) cause otherwise if we mix it directly with the epoxy we wouldn't get a nice spread of particles, Im afraid it would clump up and we would have pockets of powder with jb weld and to the other extreme of no powder and jbweld in other areas.

Cooling - and yes that was my original intention for the cooling cause the magnetism would pump it for us after we add plumbing, not only that but would add more magnetic domains, & last but not least maybe give us more charge cause of the movement of the fluid. (a charged magnetic field moving along a circuit should induce more voltage with added benifits. (but thats just a hypothesis  I have yet to prove.) or we or whatever is clever.

Mav