The Gabriel Device, possible COP=8

[Jack Noskills]

Mags, when you start playing with tube inside tube, try also inner tube as primary. Magnetic field of a tube is denser in the inside than outside so field outside should reach further and field inside tube is closer to core. If distance is correct then maybe this is an easy way to make one way induction, primary reaches further than secondary can reach back ?

If this works, then how about adding a third layer, you would take power from each layer and perhaps connecting outputs of two secondary layers together. They must be connected properly as sec 1 and sec 2 will be in opposite phase.

Weird idea just occurred to me, how about using air core primary winding that is placed inside nanoperm tube and your secondary wrapped around nanoperm ? From flux creation point of view it does not matter if the core is inside or outside coil ? Nanoperm core would capture all magnetic field from primary and little or no flux should reflect back from secondary. And even if it does then as there is no core effect would be close to zero.

[Magluvin]

Hey Jack

well, Mav has shown that input to the inner secondary doesnt induce current in the outer primary. This is a good thing.

In a normal transformer, when current is flowing in a loaded, not open secondary, the sec field causes the primary to flow more current than if the sec were open. As the sec load is increased to pull more current, the primary allows more current from input as the sec current goes up.

So, we want the primary field directed to a core that allows the primary field to CROSS the secondary windings, while preventing the field, that the secondary produces, to cross the primary winding.

So it is like a magnetic diode or rectification, a 1 way street that we are trying to create.

In a way, I like the shell model. But I can see that it may need liquid cooling, and a rewind is a pain. So, since I have my mind set on how the windings fields propagate with cores, with the help of the  classical flux analysis  pdf, Im getting better at seeing what is going on with different configurations.

I have seen a thread here that shows a flux gate core setup drawn, and it has arrows showing the magnetic polarity of each leg of the core.  It would be better to show what is happening in the open spaces between the legs, like in the doughnut hole of a toroid. Thats where all the big action is, this is where fields developed by each winding is able to cut the windings on the other parts of the core.

I have a nice little toroid wound with many turns of fine wire that Im going to test for induction in 1 wire going through the core and a wire near and on the outer diameter and see what I see. Im hoping for lots more on the one going through the core, and hopefully near to none on the outside, especially none at some small distance away.  So if we have all this action on the doughnut hole, then a larger diameter core for the primary, should do the same, all primary action in the circle, and cutting the sec winding on the way.  But the sec field would remain in the sec core doughnut hole, not cutting the primary windings.

If these things all work out, say the primary pulls 1 amp when the sec is not loaded, then when you load the sec, the primary current should decrease, because loading the sec causes the input to see an increased inductance, thus lower input.  ;]

Im beginning to see that if you have an air gap in a core, 1mm, 5mm, what ever, if you wind a coil over that area, it seems it may be easy to rectify the direction of flux there.

If the coil were powered to allow flow, it just may be good enough to simulate no gap at all, but reverse the polarity of the coil and it can have a tremendous affect on closing that gate, not allowing the source field to pass the gap.

Mags

[Hope]

Mavendex have you or has anyone here ever wrapped a PVC pipe of >10" in a rodin config. ?  If it would throw all its field inside the pipe then we may be able to use a nano perm BAR wound in wire to capture nearly all that field.  This field could be generated efficiently with the SSB (auto freq radiant charger).  So by forcing the rodin to contain is field we may be able to use it's high efficient geometry to an advantage.

[Mavendex]

.... try it and find out

[AmericanMan31]

Well, more bismuth is needed to cover my 4 inch secondary toroid.. so that was ordered from ebay, and should arrive next week on Monday or Tuesday.

@ Magluvin.. I really enjoyed reading your train-of-thought in your last post and look forward to your next one.

I was reading an old 1950's article on the behavior of Bismuth in a molten state.. and apparently Bismuth loses its "Hall" effect when molten at temps,.. above 270 F , I believe.
  So I had an idea of what I could do to influence Bismuths crystalline structure when it is in its molten state.

   I Believe it may be possible to change the relative permeability of the Bloch walls in the lattice structure to one of more permanent 'superconducting behavior' by inducing a 432 hz frequency within the wires of the coil while it cools from its molten state.
   Bismuth has properties that cause it to shrink as it is heated and expands as it cools.
My hypothesis is that doing this Thereby 'imprinting' a magnetic signature within the bloch walls will cause whatever bemf response within the bismuth shell, to negate any hysteresis loss in the wire(s). It will be interesting to see what effect if any on the physical crystalline structure of Bismuth from a charged coil as the bismuth slowly cools.

I am very excited, and have a good feeling about working with bismuth because #1 of its diamagnetic properties.
            #2 its low melting/forming temp.
            #3 its likely viable resource in antigravitics and cop>1

Here's a Great video below!  >>

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glRuwV9IlaY&list=FL5KpO41Adst261NqgEfR9GQ&index=2