The Gabriel Device, possible COP=8

[wayne49s]

Could we keep the patent / legal talk out of this discussion thead?
It is completely moot when you consider the effect this phenomenon will have on our world (both good and bad) if it is proven to exist.

Mav has been generous by openly sharing his knowledge, and we are working on proving or disproving the concept by way of replication, and that is all that is relevant.
Lets keep the focus on research, information sharing.
Lets keep it in one thread.

Does anyone have pictures of a successful replication?
Im Looking forward to seeing how everyone else is comming along 

I guess the only relationship may be that what you are doing may be illegal under a patent. lol
/Wayne

[e2matrix]

Could we keep the patent / legal talk out of this discussion thead?
It is completely moot when you consider the effect this phenomenon will have on our world (both good and bad) if it is proven to exist.

Mav has been generous by openly sharing his knowledge, and we are working on proving or disproving the concept by way of replication, and that is all that is relevant.
Lets keep the focus on research, information sharing.
Lets keep it in one thread.

Does anyone have pictures of a successful replication?
Im Looking forward to seeing how everyone else is comming along 

Mavendex is helping us with something potentially very important and I'm trying to help him make the best decisions for both himself and the people of this battered planet.  Did you read what I posted and the Panacea info?  One of my biggest concerns is if the US Patent office (controlled by corporate interests) gets hold of this is they would probably first make sure no one could get any Nanoperm toroids (they might be classified as dangerous or protected under national security) and then NO one would be able to make these.  Not for individual use or any one let alone for production.  The Matrix is bigger than you think... 

[twinbeard]

Well, kind of, and kind of not.  I posit, on record, that the nanoperm is not critical.  A high permeability material is.  Mumetal, Permalloy, Molypermalloy, and even something they cannot control like raw magnetite sand are all very viable as inner core materials.  The critical ratio is permeability of the inner core to the permeability of the outer core, and it seems that it needs to be approx 20:1 or greater ratio.  The mass of each core is important too, but not as much as the permeability. 

Regarding the magnetite... you can drag a neo magnet through the dirt and come up with some of this in most places in the world, although it is generally found en masse as spoil from gold mining operations.  It is simply impossible to control the distribution of something common in the ground like that;)

Cheers,
Twinbeard

Mavendex is helping us with something potentially very important and I'm trying to help him make the best decisions for both himself and the people of this battered planet.  Did you read what I posted and the Panacea info?  One of my biggest concerns is if the US Patent office (controlled by corporate interests) gets hold of this is they would probably first make sure no one could get any Nanoperm toroids (they might be classified as dangerous or protected under national security) and then NO one would be able to make these.  Not for individual use or any one let alone for production.  The Matrix is bigger than you think... 

[Magluvin]

I read the USTPO SAWS pdf. It seems like there could be some constitution breaking statements there.

There would have to be some state courts willing to change these things, if they got together on it. Supreme Court probably would not even hear it in open proceedings, well knowing what the subject is before hearing. Rigged.

I believe a few states could get a big ball rolling.

But trying to pat. a device that is withing the criteria exposed in the pdf would be suicide.

One thing that is interesting is, they dont want you to further expose the subject, any of it, to anyone new. But it doesnt say that you cant discuss it with previous people of knowledge.

Well that just tells me that everyone will get a visit. Everyone with knowledge.  Would not make sense to gag order just the pat applicant(s), but the other lil piggys run free.  ;]

One thing in the pdf caught me.  Anything that falls under, "BIG NEWS" "ATTENTION GETTER" is also subject.

I can only imagine what never made it through because of that claim alone.

I would push the ideas knowledge out there as fast as possible along your path to pat. Even out to anonymous paths, lots of YT, how ever. Send out flyers to students at tech schools. lol  But if you were put under gag order, you could have the underground path already set up to blow it out there, it just cant be you doing the deed.

Crazy stuff. 


Mags

[Mavendex]

I read the USTPO SAWS pdf. It seems like there could be some constitution breaking statements there.

There would have to be some state courts willing to change these things, if they got together on it. Supreme Court probably would not even hear it in open proceedings, well knowing what the subject is before hearing. Rigged.

I believe a few states could get a big ball rolling.

But trying to pat. a device that is withing the criteria exposed in the pdf would be suicide.

One thing that is interesting is, they dont want you to further expose the subject, any of it, to anyone new. But it doesnt say that you cant discuss it with previous people of knowledge.

Well that just tells me that everyone will get a visit. Everyone with knowledge.  Would not make sense to gag order just the pat applicant(s), but the other lil piggys run free.  ;]

One thing in the pdf caught me.  Anything that falls under, "BIG NEWS" "ATTENTION GETTER" is also subject.

I can only imagine what never made it through because of that claim alone.

I would push the ideas knowledge out there as fast as possible along your path to pat. Even out to anonymous paths, lots of YT, how ever. Send out flyers to students at tech schools. lol  But if you were put under gag order, you could have the underground path already set up to blow it out there, it just cant be you doing the deed.

Crazy stuff. 


Mags

BINGO!!!! Dirty deeds done dirt cheep!