The Gabriel Device, possible COP=8

[broli]

Raw materials (in powder form?) and a metal caster?

http://www.backyardmetalcasting.com/
http://www.backyardmetalcasting.com/bucketfurnace1.html

Maybe you can contact one of those guys for a far better backyard deal :p.

[Jack Noskills]

I was searching for magnetic tape materials while I got grazy idea, how about using videotape as a shield ? Video is stored magnetically on tape. Poor mans magnetic tape, better not run heat treatment for that tho.

[Jack Noskills]

Winding toroids is tedious, so in order to avoid huge disappointment this can be tested using normal magnet. Put some tape between magnet and metal object and see if magnets ability to move the metal object changes.

[Mavendex]

Winding toroids is tedious, so in order to avoid huge disappointment this can be tested using normal magnet. Put some tape between magnet and metal object and see if magnets ability to move the metal object changes.

Let me see if I get you on this, to avoid disappointment take a magnet like lets say a neo magnet put tape on it and see if the ability to move a metal object has been retarded?

lets see ok Big neo check, moves metal check, taped up magnet does it still move the metal yup same distance same metal

Im not really worried about disappointment, I know the PF can go to 0 or real real close to 0 with this current shell. So to make things better or more practical then we just go ahead and make the shell a better magnetic conductor, easier to charge holds the bemf better.

Cold rolled steel, can be brute forced in to submission, this is a fact. If better materials are available and I got money to burn on open sourceing a reliable solid state fluxing inductor that returns everything to the source while outputting a nice gain more than a mere 30 watts then its not a disappointment.

To take a collage course in physics it costs quite a bit and then your just left with knowledge and no practical experience, where I could use that same money get some sweet materials and go hog wild get the same if not more knowledge, practical experience, and a proof positive concept that everyone can use to better themselves, as better and better materials are created over time the same concept device will improve, roomtemp superconducting wire for instance, graphene, supermalloy and other mu metals, all have a place in the future. ""I should also add engineering techniques and geometry's also enhance output"

Gabby is a infant vs. all the other techs out there that took people 10+ years to develop and 100's of thousands of dollars for small gains.

I only use this place to open source ideas so it can be utilized by people that have more knowledge and experience than myself, as I learn and move forward so doesn't everything else.
So to avoid a huge disappointment, I don't rely on others to get the job done, cause if want something done right you gotta doit yourself.

Do or Do Not there is no Try
Mav

[Jack Noskills]

Nice that you actually tested this. Sometimes wacky ideas work, sometimes they work differently than expected, most of the times they don't work at all. But even failure is usefull because you can learn why it failed and gain more understanding. Better not to rely on text books alone, your own imagination and intuition may provide better results. But I think you know this already seeing what you have come up with so far.

By disappointment I meant you would first unwound your primary winding, remove steel core, put on the tape, wind primary again and it does not work, hmm, maybe more layers ?  Trying again with more tape and eventually realize 'oh crap this is shit' and return to original design. Hours of work would have been wasted.

Now thinking again it is good tape did not work, it is a lot easier just to put a shell than do third toroidal winding using tape. But still wondering would tape using nanoperm material be any different than iron wire that did not work. Then again, you already have a working concept so why change it drastically.

Have you tried what happens if you increase the number of turns in primary and secondary, lets say to two layers ? If you use bifilar windings, has it any notable difference in behaviour ? You must have been tried lots of different variations and you have mentioned about them. This is good so anyone doing replication learns what does work and what does not giving room for more ideas. As you open sourced this I believe there could be more progress being made if all having this setup availeble for testing would team up virtually. One document that would describe what changes has been tried, what effects it had, some experimental results and so on. But where to store it so that it is easy to find ?

The first version put 450 watts out, what kind of output level have you reached with the new shell ? I recall you saying you got 12 watts out of 1 but what is that as total output power, 600 watts ?