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The Gabriel Device, possible COP=8

Started by Feynman, March 22, 2011, 04:07:09 PM

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Jack Noskills

I realised the other day why Tesla used iron wire in his trafo patent that used quarant phasing, it is there to capture the back EMF of the secondary so that it does not reach the core.

Then I played with this in my head and I came up with this possible improvement, I am not sure if this is correct place to post but it has same components as gabby so it is close enough.

Lets say the toroid is wound first with relatively fine wire so that coil will be atleast 10 mm thick. On top of this primary a coarser wire is wound which is sorted, this would be intermediate coil. On top of this the output coil is wound using iron wire. Purpose of iron is to capture back EMF of intermediate wire so that primary does not see it and generate power from it. So iron coil would be core and a coil at the same time.

Now what happens here ? Primary and secondary fluxes would be in same direction so if secondary flux reaches the core it would not oppose it, primary current should go down. Intermediate coil would run at its full speed providing high EMF as there would be low resistance, this EMF would then feed the iron coil as it is closer to it than primary core which is atleast 10 mm away. The more back EMF iron coil would produce the more it would help the primary and reduce current there.

What is your opinion, could it be this simple ?

If anyone has iron wire at hand I see this test worthwhile the effort. Baseline to test against would be first to use only two copper coils, a normal trafo. Then add iron coil and use it as a back EMF collector as Tesla did and finally try the same by shorting intermediate coil. Number of turns would need to be high in every coil, atleast thousand. Maybe iron coil would need even more turns, experimenting needed here.

BTW, this intermediate coil can be connected to output if placed in correct way but I am not sure if it would help in this setup.

Hope

Like the idea Jack,

Kinda makes me think of a way to transfer a ringing coil's output to a secondary as well.  What would happen if we spark gapped this iron wired winding's output as the primary was peaking it's ac waveform?  We could send it thru a HV diode and charge a plate on a capacitor which the other cap plate is connected to the secondary thru a loose winding which would (phase match) act as a squeezing force while the secondary was saturated.


Only place for this HV ring to go would be to the secondary.  Since this iron winding is highly permeable there would be a high degree of current that could not be transferred back to the primary due to saturation with the original pulses still. (Especially if we included DC in the input pulse.)  Good thoughts Jack. 

Kator01

Hello Jack,

this idea can be tested easily by using a standart-12 V-Toroid-Transformer which has no epoxy-filling in the  the center of the core. You short the secondary coil and wrap the ironwire on the outside.
One problem is that there is no isolated ironwire available so this is extra work. You have to either wind the ironwire in such a way that the windings do not touch each other or apply isolating-resin on the outer ironwire after
finishing the winding.
In order to vary the parameters you can tap the secondary coil at different numbers of winding. The secondary winding
has about 90 windings, so you can tap after 30 and another tap at 60 windings and short it there..
Use a variac and slowly increase the primary voltage while you watch the voltage at a load connected to the iron-wire including phase-shift ( primary voltage to current )

Regards

Kator01

Jack Noskills

I am unable to do these kind of tests. I was hoping someone could try this out and post some results, working/not working...

Acca

I have just posted a validation of a vortex magnetic spin video clip and need some input as to why this is possible and is there any way to image this with out water ??? Al..     http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7Xc9VHbXl8