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SMOT - Close to closing the loop ,second video-BIG improvement

Started by billmehess, March 31, 2011, 01:05:30 AM

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mscoffman

Quote from: billmehess on April 10, 2011, 12:26:20 PM

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1.The ball from a start position moves up the incline of the SMOT
2. The ball exits the end
3. The ball falls into the scoop
4.The ball exits the scoop to the entry glass platform
5. The ball rolls down the glass and exits the glass onto the connecting uchannel
6.The ball exits the uchannel onto the glass receiving platform
7.The ball rolls across the glass platform to the edge of the entrance of the uchannel on the SMOT.

The entire spacing from the exit to the entry has been made up. Next to modify slightly the SMOT to accept the ball.
...

Bill,
Excellent! Congratulations with what you have done so far. Fortunately
from the other projects you have worked on I consider you completely
trustworthy and a true scientist. I am getting ready to "flip the bits"
in my belief system to "true" when it comes to magnetic perpetual motion.
*So* many other folks said they had tried to do this but were unable too
do this.

There are three things you might want to consider "for fun" right now
while you get the last things cleaned up on your current path

a) Whether the ball becomes gaussed over time.
(the opposite of degaussing). Slightly different materials for the
ball might prevent this from occurring or investing *some* output
energy in degaussing might be required.

b) Whether a lead metal core for the ball might increase the energy
in the system.

c) Whether a balance rocker beam over all or part of the array
might make sense. This would make for a different demo and might
make it possible to couple mechanical energy out easier. This would
make for a neat demo clock escapement. If that is the correct word.

d) It might be good to see if you can set up a non-neodynium
magnet version of this in an attempt to sidestep the Chinese
rare-earths availability restrictions and non-neodynium magnet
erasability issues. (Plucking it from the MIB mawl as it were).
This would probably take some time to test in parallel with other
things.   

Let us know how things are going!

:S:MarkSCoffman


billmehess

Thank you Mark

Always good suggestions from you. I mentioned a few posts ago that I would be employing a peizo
"energy harvester" to extract voltage from the system. The ball falling into the scoop and the continuous vibration of the ball on the system will generate voltage. Also multiple balls could be employed for increased output.
This system is completely scalable. Imagine instead of a 1/2" in diameter ball a ball x number of inches in diameter.
I am sure a whole new set of challenges will rear their ugly heads a I try to finish this last bit up.
Anyway the quest continuous.
Bill

Poit

Quote from: billmehess on April 10, 2011, 02:56:34 PM
Thank you Mark

Always good suggestions from you. I mentioned a few posts ago that I would be employing a peizo
"energy harvester" to extract voltage from the system. The ball falling into the scoop and the continuous vibration of the ball on the system will generate voltage. Also multiple balls could be employed for increased output.
This system is completely scalable. Imagine instead of a 1/2" in diameter ball a ball x number of inches in diameter.
I am sure a whole new set of challenges will rear their ugly heads a I try to finish this last bit up.
Anyway the quest continuous.
Bill

I gather you are using a steel ball? (i.e not magnetic?)

billmehess

Quote from: Poit on April 10, 2011, 07:38:13 PM
I gather you are using a steel ball? (i.e not magnetic?)
Yes a steel ball approx. 1/2" in diameter from ACE Hardware. It is non magnetic.
Bill

mscoffman

@billmehess,

Bill;
Your implementation seems very compact. I hope you don't plan on taking
too much time implementing the displayable energy led device. It would seem
real easy to put a coil around the whole upslope array. I'd really like to see
you get credit for closing the loop on the SMOT. It would be interesting
to know if you can get the ball to speed up by placing a magnetic array on the
return slope like groundloop described, or if this causes the dreaded "sticky spot".
This would indicate that you could add energy margins if need be, so that maintaining
control is not a function of decreasing runner momentum.

:S:MarkSCoffman