Capacitor Energy Transfer Experiments - A False Enigma

[poynt99]

I have read your thread actually, and as I said, I believe I understand where you guys are coming from.

What type of test using a simulation would you like to see to prove your theory? You seem to have faith in SPICE simulation and so I am asking and offering to do a sim.

I have one that I can suggest:

Let's use the two pairs of RC components you mentioned before, i.e. a 10uF cap at 10V, with a 100 Ohm load, and a 20uF cap at 5V with a 50 Ohm load. From this, we can use SPICE to show us the total energy that will be discharged from the capacitors and dissipated in the resistor in each pair.

What do you think?

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[Magluvin]

thanks for understanding , even if it is not fully understood. ;]

The question. The gain is that in the end, we have a same uf value cap as we started with, but more voltage than we started with..

I just came up with how to do the end game switching that made things very easy as compared to what i had thought earlier. And i made a mistake in my 3rd stage calc that worked out in our favor. ;]

Im tired Point. Glad you see where im going with it. And if you have any easier solutions, I welcome all. It can only get better with a collective of good minds working together.

See ya tomorrow point. I dont think you will be disaPOINTed  ;]

thanks

mags

[poynt99]

The question. The gain is that in the end, we have a same uf value cap as we started with, but more voltage than we started with..

Yes, if you can end up with a higher voltage on a same value capacitor, you would have a gain. Aside from the obvious voltage increase, what would the element of gain be exactly? (I'm still trying to get an answer to my original question).

Have you already obtained the result of a higher voltage on the same value capacitor? Where?

Im tired Point. Glad you see where im going with it. And if you have any easier solutions, I welcome all. It can only get better with a collective of good minds working together.

I have already offered what I think is a quick and solid solution to checking your theory. Would you like me to perform that simulation I mentioned, but in this case use your present values of 10uF at 1000V, and 80uF at 350V? What loads would you like to see on these two capacitors?

Since you are generating much of this data using a simulator, I am assuming you would be content to see what a SPICE simulator shows in terms of the energy content of each of the aforementioned capacitors.

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