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Overunity Machines Forum



Hydro Differential pressure exchange over unity system.

Started by mrwayne, April 10, 2011, 04:07:24 AM

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mrwayne

Quote from: Ghost on August 12, 2012, 05:05:27 AM
almost 100 pages of pure garbage.
so far, no solid proof to prove the workings of this machine.
all of this could of been a lot easier and direct but now it's piling up into a mountain of shit.
a simple HD video showing ALL parts inside and out of this machine in operation could of saved us tons of time.
also a video showing the machine being put together one part at a time describing each part.
and having someone replicate your "over unity machine" by some dude and sending him 2,000 dollars doesn't prove anything either.
funny because many of us have seen this kind of mountain before and wont be the last either.

good day sir!

Thanks for checking in,

I see you never got your hands wet... that does make it hard for you..... I can see where you are coming from. wrong of course - but if you make your decision by the effort you have put into this - counting pages.... well --- Good luck.

Also - You may have been misled - I am sorry for that - I volunteered to help those who wanted to learn about the system.

Not to prove our system to you - would you seriously believe anything your read on the net as fact?
(I try very hard to stick to the facts because of people like MC, ME, who try to twist every word into wasted pages of garbage)

No of course not - I do not expect anyone to believe either - but if you are one of the people who do decide to get your hands wet - and then have questions - take a look at the patent - do a simple test of your own - or read on the replications of those you might trust.

If you trust no one - how could I help you?

You are correct about the garbage - I am glad it stays so that everytime you and others check in with a stink bag - it is recorded - it makes up about one third of the garbage on this thread.

I do not know about other threads - on this thread - garbage thrown by people who do not take the time to look for themselves.
Look for yourself - and you have a qualified argument - other wise you just toss a stink bag ...If you base your argument on the pile.... bad form....maybe you will see something that 44 other engineers missed.. it could happen.

@Ghost - have you seen one single reason posted here on why the physics of our design can not work? No - but you have seen a Dozen that have replicated the physics from the patent and agree.............

I see you have experience with failures. That is the way with ALL inventions - it is not proof of the future - but it is proof of the need and desire for a certain goal.

This invention is not about me - but I do have to lead the charge - this is the contribution I have to the world.

Vocal people like yourself could add very valuable contribution to the world if you took the time to research yourself.

Good Day,

Wayne

mrwayne

Quote from: neptune on August 12, 2012, 05:51:48 AM
@Mr Wayne. I am asking you personally to help clarify a statement you made earlier, which seems to have caused a misunderstanding between myself and others. Here is what you stated.
"I watch as some argue that using 15 cubic inches @640 PSI to generate 30 cubic inches @640 PSI in the same time frame is not overunity-or not using the right words to describe- is that we have is 15 cubic inches every stroke-3.7 times a minute."


I venture to suggest that you may have made a mistake when you wrote that. "Using 15 cubic inches to generate." Is that 15 cubic inches of water being injected into the ZED ? If it is, then it will surely not be at 640 PSI. If it is not the input to the ZED, what is it? I assume it must be the ZED input because it is the ZEDs that are OU, not the high pressure hydraulic transmission system.
    So for the sake of clarity, could you please help us here?
  Respect, neptune.

Hello Netptune,
I am sorry,  thought I did - reply 1262

In the model at our house - we use a hydraulic system to capture the buoyancy first - and then we use some of that captured and stored energy to increase the transfer of water between the Zeds -

On our system we only have to pay for the loss of the water's head during transfer - and whatever portion we leave in the Z.E.D

With loss in transfer and counting what we left behind - we consume (in this model) about half our hydraulic production.
Our hydraulic production is about 30cubic inches a full stroke / cycle.

Now - before MC posts another bag of stink - we have - like all systems, losses in every exchange - except the Z.E.D portion -
nine losses as I have stated before - with these losses - a third of our production is up and gone.

That leaves us with about a third of the excess to NET.

The good news is this - I built the Z.E.D. from the theory of operations I gleaned when I saw the Travis Effect, my engineers have optimized the design - our 10K system is not much bigger than my 36watt model.

Yet the losses do not increase at the same rate of production increases!

Once they understood how the system functions "OverUnity" they hit the floor running to optimize.

@Neptune, I keep seeing you try to encourage people to come and see - that is great, I love to share - Validation is coming - do not worry about that or the stink nags - how silly, and natural this will all seem in near future -

Resistance to change is as hard on some people as losing a loved one. Even my engineers went through stages of disbelief.

They were wise enough to make their decisions - in time - on the physical evidence.

The truth will prevail - it is just birthing pains we go thru now, some will come see the baby, some will wait for graduation.

Wayne Travis




neptune

Hi Wayne, and many thanks for your reply. So let me summarise what you said, as I understand it.
1.We are talking about the 36 Watt model that you have at your house


2.Let us define a cycle. We have 2 ZEDS, A and B , so at the start of the cycle A is down and B is up. A rises and B falls. Then A falls and B rises. This cycle repeats 3.7 times a minute.


3. During a cycle as defined above, a total of 30 cubic inches of hydraulic fluid is forced into the hydraulic accumulator by the rams [acting as pumps  Wayne calls these 5 inch diameter rams"Production Rams"] which are activated by the Zeds as they rise. The pressure in the accumulator is 640 PSI.


4 The pressurised fluid in the accumulator represents stored energy. This is then used in 2 ways. Part of it powers the hydraulic ram which help to power the water transfer between ZEDs.This ram is called the input ram or transfer assist ram, and has a diameter of one inch. That accounts for about 15 cubic inches, taking into account system losses.


5. The remaining 15 cubic inches of fluid is used to power a hydraulic pump, which in turn, drives an alternator connected to a load. The power dissapated in the load is approximately 36 Watts.

@Mrwayne. Could you please tell me if I got it right.

mrwayne

Quote from: neptune on August 12, 2012, 09:45:51 AM
Hi Wayne, and many thanks for your reply. So let me summarise what you said, as I understand it.
1.We are talking about the 36 Watt model that you have at your house


2.Let us define a cycle. We have 2 ZEDS, A and B , so at the start of the cycle A is down and B is up. A rises and B falls. Then A falls and B rises. This cycle repeats 3.7 times a minute.


3. During a cycle as defined above, a total of 30 cubic inches of hydraulic fluid is forced into the hydraulic accumulator by the rams [acting as pumps] which are activated by the Zeds as they rise. The pressure in the accumulator is 640 PSI.


4 The pressurised fluid in the accumulator represents stored energy. This is then used in 2 ways. Part of it powers the hydraulic ram which help to power the water transfer between ZEDs. That accounts for about 15 cubic inches, taking into account system losses.


5. The remaining 15 cubic inches of fluid is used to power a hydraulic pump, which in turn, drives an alternator connected to a load. The power dissipated in the load is approximately 36 Watts.

@Mrwayne. Could you please tell me if I got it right.
Hello M.

Yes your recap is correct -

Except Number four needs to clarify that the input ram and the production ram are not the same unit.

The production rams (one per Z.E.D)  is 5 inches in diameter, and the transfer assist ram is 1 inch.

I am afraid some might get that confused the way it was worded.

The input is used to increase the pressure flowing from the lowering Zed, to reach the stroking pressure of the producing Zed -
and then the process reverses.

Thanks,

Wayne

LarryC

Quote from: mrwayne on July 23, 2012, 09:51:20 AM
Thermal:

We do not exchange heat - or do any form of exchange in that manner - When it is hot outside - or cold - the system does respond as expected - the accumulators nitrogen does expand a bit - but since the system is self regulating - it compensates automatically.
The speed and pressure we deal with are barely enough to measure that exchange - Our engineer said - it is less than one 90 degree elbow (in the plumbing) adds in resistance and loss to the system.


Wayne Travis
Misinformation deterrence.
Larry