Hydro Differential pressure exchange over unity system.

[mondrasek]

MH,

Great post.  I just want to disclose a thought I had that differed from your "take away" from viewing the groaning video.  I had assumed that the "electric motor that is driving a hydraulic pump" that you described below was actually the reverse:  A hydraulic motor (powered by the output of the system) running a generator to power the electronics by keeping the battery charged.  Excess electrical output was then being put into the lights.  I had not considered what you wrote.  I look forward to a clarification by Mr. Wayne.

In your groaning clip, we see what appears to be an electric motor that is driving a hydraulic pump.  Is this true?  Where does the electrical power to drive the motor come from?  What is the pressurized hydraulic oil being used for?

Also, we should give a link to the "groaning video".  Is that here?  I personally saw it on PESN and don't know if it is local.

Thanks,

M.

[hartiberlin]

Maybe user Microcontroller and Milehigh will stop posting here as wild speculations without having seen the actual
device does not bring us any further...!

Many thanks for your understanding..
Any further attacks of the inventor will be punished by me.


Maybe  johnny874
can still draw a few better pictures when he has some time as the ones posted are hard to understand
and he seems to be the only one who has understood the full principle.

Please also use color in your biger drawings and let us know where the
water level is located in your drawings.
Many thanks.

Regards, Stefan.

[hartiberlin]

  I had assumed that the "electric motor that is driving a hydraulic pump" that you described below was actually the reverse:  A hydraulic motor (powered by the output of the system) running a generator to power the electronics by keeping the battery charged.  Excess electrical output was then being put into the lights.  I had not considered what you wrote.  I look forward to a clarification by Mr. Wayne.

Yes, it was already stated by the inventor, that it is a generator powering the light bulbs from the internal hydraulic
fluids flowiing in the system and it outputs around 30 Watts what the Power meter shows !

You all should read before speculating wrongly especially user Milehigh who seems  not to  read or
seems to mix up things on purpose... !

[MileHigh]

Stefan:

No I am not mixing up any things on purpose.  I can't remember all the details partly because the presentation is not very good.

I will respect your wishes and I am done with this thread.  I am not 'attacking' anybody with my postings.  There is a good implicit message in my postings about asking questions.  I don't know why people seem shy or afraid to ask questions.  There are probably 20 good questions that I asked about this proposition and they may never be answered.  Just look at the example of the RomeroUK fiasco.  If just one person had insisted that Romero showed the output voltage from the FWBR bus he would have been busted right there.  Instead, nobody asked him that question and hundreds of people spent thousands of hours and thousands of dollars for nothing.  Wattsup busted Romero when he analyzed his video clips.  He found what I predicted that he would find.  There is nothing wrong with asking questions, and even what would be considered tough questions are sometimes appropriate.

MileHigh

[TinselKoala]

Yes, it was already stated by the inventor, that it is a generator powering the light bulbs from the internal hydraulic
fluids flowiing in the system and it outputs around 30 Watts what the Power meter shows !

You all should read before speculating wrongly especially user Milehigh who seems  not to  read or
seems to mix up things on purpose... !

Sorry, but it looks like a big electric motor and a hydraulic pump to me, too. It's also not turning very fast, apparently.  A slow, high-torque motor, controlled by a PWM controller, driving a hydraulic pump, can do a lot of useful work at low RPM. But a hydraulic motor driving a generator to make useful electric power --- will have to turn the generator shaft at a faster and relatively steady speed.

And there is more than thirty watts just in the _audio_ output power of that groaning monster!!

It would be trivial for the inventor to permanently put this issue to rest by a simple demonstration or a closeup with meters attached to the right wires. Will he do so? I certainly would.... if I could.

MileHigh's point about the compressed air is also very important. It is a stored power source, and if it has to be replenished for the device to keep running..... well, that's not good. Why can't it power its own air compressor?