Hydro Differential pressure exchange over unity system.

[Red_Sunset]

Dear All,
I came across an interesting read , I think the book content is somewhat relevant to the current evolved position of the Hydro Differential invention having arrived at a crucial milestone on its way towards confirmation and market introduction

"Mad like Tesla",  exploring the "underdog inventors"

INTRODUCTION : Cheering the Lone Runner
It will never work. It can never be done. It is impossible. It will never be accepted.
How often, throughout modern history, have those words been spoken?

There are dozens of classic examples, from Tesla to current inventors and their pursuits to introducing new idea's and concepts
Also includes passages on current hot and cold fusion positions, Thane Heins and a variety of other recent concept inventions.

The book:
Mad Like Tesla: Underdog Inventors and their Relentless Pursuit of Clean Energy By Tyler Hamilton
Publisher: E[CW] P[res]s 2011 | 256 Pages | ISBN: 1770410082 | PDF | 1 MB

Can be found here for evaluation:
http://avaxhome.ws/ebooks/Politics_Sociology/1770410082.html

I hope you like it.

[TinselKoala]

Hmmm.  Supposedly?   

But why rely on calculations when you can run a physical test?  I mean, it's the only way to be sure, right?

Any tests I can do besides these boring mass reduction runs that you think might help?

M.

Well, personally I'd like to see a calibration of your manometric pressure measurement system, but I can't think of an easy, free way to do it, without having a calibrated reference manometer to compare with. But really... there's not much that can go wrong with manometry, as long as you've got the tubing and the space.

I suppose you can't test any geometric hypotheses, unless you want to build a new system. But what would be the point of that? Right now, absent input from Mister Wayne's Brayne, I'd say that the priority would be trying to get a sim to track your actual results, as a way of validating the simulation.

I mean, you are doing it right, right? Your Zed/Pod/riser system is set up according to the best directions available from the actual inventor, given the constraints of your chosen system of engineering materials and construction technology, along with your experimental protocols and measurement tools... right? And you aren't blowing skirts and your results are repeatable, so on and so forth. So your experimental results are valid, right? Is anyone challenging them on realistic grounds?

[TinselKoala]

@Red_Sunset: The invocation of Nikola Tesla in these conversations is another nearly sure sign of "woo" and exaggerated hyperbole.  May I point out a rather significant difference between Tesla himself, and many of those other "inventors" mentioned in that text?

Tesla, of course, actually demonstrated the veracity and validity of his claims, almost 100 percent, across his entire career. In addition he actually did patent many of his inventions, and many of his inventions or their direct technological descendants are in daily use, by me and by you. Those others mentioned in that text..... have less stunning records.

Back on the topic.... since you seem to be on the "inside" track, there, Red, perhaps _you_ can tell us what happened.... is the system "up and running", was this Friday the one meant, have there been some snags, has Mark D. purchased his airline tickets yet?

[LarryC]

It's hard for me to see any dependence on geometry in those kinds of numbers. That is, if your Zed system were tall and skinny, or short and fat, the lift and pressure numbers would still be the same, since they depend on the volume of fluid, and this doesn't change regardless of the shape.
Am I correct in this reasoning?

No.

I don't have a 2 Riser System Rise calculator. So I used my 3 Riser System Rise calculator as an example of geometry change.

Pic 1 shows the results before and after from a .75 rise using M.'s specification.

Pic 2 shows the results before and after from a .75 rise using M.'s specification, but the height changed to 13".

Regards, Larry

PS: Red is probably asleep now, but all I can tell you is this,  . But, If you want to be the one who writes the physics paper on this great advance, you should start trying to understand now.

[TinselKoala]

Is there an answer to the actual questions asked, in those images, I wonder? 

Does LarryC's system accurately predict or describe the performance of Mondrasek's actual system?

Does the aspect ratio of the Zed affect the work efficiency measurements made in the manner that Mondrasek showed?

If these questions are answered in LarryC's drawings, can someone explain to me just where, and how? Because it just doesn't "pop out" at me.

Meanwhile..... did MrWayne meet his self-imposed deadline, or did he not? Does he have his system "up and running" and is Mark Dansie waiting in line to board an airplane, or not?

Answer me that one, and then maybe we can talk about scientific papers, LarryC.