Hydro Differential pressure exchange over unity system.

[mrwayne]

Thank you Core,

I believe the patent laws were just changed to - "first to file" is awarded the patent.

This was just a month ago, they took out the "moment of inspiration".

Which is why the poor mans method worked.

Wayne

[conradelektro]

Dear Conrad,

I do not think I was talking in riddles? Maybe I talk too much, I have been accused of being long winded

But you make a very good point, it has made me pause, should I disclose this or keep it secret?

I have no reason to disclose my discovery, I do not need you to validate my working proto type?

My intentions are obvious and stated:  To Bring Free Energy to its proper Revolution, my plan is marketing, licensing, and manufacturing the machines.

It appears that your advice is - if I truly have "over unity" I should keep it a secret to protects the rights.

You could be right.....it does make sense - in a self preservation mindset.

My advice: Disclose fully or stop saying anything in public!

You say: "my plan is marketing, licensing, and manufacturing the machines."

If this is your plan, you should not say anything in public before you have patented (in multiple ways) and manufactured many useful machines.

It just does not make sense to talk about something which one is not prepared to explain and proof in all details. Doing this just angers people because you want their consent or admiration without making it possible to check your claims. "Sharing" and "trying to make money" are two pairs of shoes, if you want to wear both you look funny.

If you want or need money, stay with the money makers and stop showing off in public. First of all, erase your silly website. It scares away all serious investors. And people who think about OU hate it even more, because it is a tease.

If you want to share (which means giving up all claims and all control) prepare comprehensible documentation of all necessary details and hand it out for free so that people can make their own experiments. You will want as many independent replications as possible (in order to be believed) and you will want as many people as possible to try to make money from it (which will make the device reasonably priced). Many people do not realize, once truly and fully disclosed, nobody can patent it any more. And of course, nobody has any hold over it any more. There can always be patents on new details, but who needs them, there are always alternatives.

From your rumblings, insinuations and riddles, I gather, that you seem to believe in a new principle of using buoyancy to generate excess energy. If this principle is valid, there will be endless ways to take advantage of it. You will only be able to patent a few ways of using this principle, never all possible implementations. So, eventually it will be out of your hands.

If I had invented an OU machine I would go for publicity, handing out all information for free in order to stay credible. But I am an old man who has enough to live comfortably.

My opinion: if you want to make money, buy something for 1000 Dollars and sell it for 10.000 Dollars, you will live comfortably with this 10% gain. (The point of this silly advice: in order to make money, you do not even have to understand how to calculate percentages, you just have to be prepared to take advantage of somebody.) In other words, either make money or try to be a good guy, you can not be both. The money maker who wants to be liked is a sorry sight. And the good guy who wants to do good for money is even worse.

Greetings, Conrad

[conradelektro]

The contradiction or the wish that can not be fulfilled:

The inventor of an OU device wants to be believed, but he does not want to give away the details. But without knowing the details nobody can check his claim and therefore nobody will believe him.

Remarks:

The inventor of an OU device says "I do not have to proof anything to you". Yes, you have to proof everything for free if you want me to believe. The way out: the inventor has to give up the silly wish that I should believe him without irrefutable proof.

So, if you have invented an OU device and you do not want to give away every tiny little detail or secret, stop asking people to believe you. Stop wanting to be admired. Stop rambling, stop insinuating, stop seeking the consent of people who can not form an opinion, because they can not check what you claim.

So, if you have invented an OU device and you want to make money from it, stop the silly wish to present yourself as a "savior". Stop playing the guy who wants to save the world. Stop playing the guy who does it for my good. Be a good business man and make money if you can. I can deal with any business man if he can sell me something I can use or something I think I need. If this something is not yet ready for practical use, well, keep it, I wont buy it. A business transaction has its own rules, which have to work out if you want to succeed.

If you want to sell something, "believe" is not an option. The device must work, it must deliver what you promise, there has to be a warranty in case it does not work, the life span of the device has to be reasonable, repair service and guaranty period has to be offered, and so on.

Ahh, your device needs further development, it is not ready to be manufactured and sold.

Well, why do you need me to believe you? Why do you need my admiration, I (and the general public) will never invest. You only have to convince an investor (and not me or the general public).

And according to my experience with investors, they have their own personal likes and dislikes. Some even are prepared to believe tall stories, because they have too much money and like to play a risky game every now and then (like gambling). There, with the investors, you play your "make believe game", your "energy revolution tale", your "I have found a secret" story. Money makers are suckers for secrecy, they will like it, they believe in "lets protect this secret first".

If you want fame, you have to give away the reasons for your fame for free. If you want money, keep your secrets and talk to people who believe in money.

My opinion, why OU is the worst possible choice for money making:

If ever we find OU, it will be a new source of energy or a new way of transforming one kind of energy into an other kind of energy. In other words, it will be a new law of nature not yet discovered.

Once this is discovered, there will be millions of ways to use that principle and it will take decades till something really useful comes out of it. The "discoverer" (who may see himself as an "inventor") will not be believed for a long time. Mainstream science and public opinion have a high inertia which needs first of all "time" to be overcome.

You can not patent a law of nature (or a principle), only a way of using that law by help of a contraption. And there will be endless ways of implementing a principle. There will be thousands of patents.

It is by no means assured that the discoverer of a new law of nature will get credit for his discovery. Clever business men will come out with it with a new name and a new spin. Mainstream scientists will present it in their own words and claim fame. Hundreds of people will claim that they have found it before you. Many will sell books about it.

Well, I think I have made myself more than clear.

Greetings, Conrad

[baroutologos]

unfortunately, Conrad speaks the ultimate truth.

My bet is you never going to make big money out of any OU device. Not the amounts you though anyway.
your best business bet is to sell custom based devices locally or with small and agile businesses.

Seeking large corporations to sign multi-million dollar deals is a dead-end i am afraid. On the other hand if you share it, you may risk to lose rights and large sums of "potential" money, but certainly be my hero. (especially if i can replicate that )

[mrwayne]

Thank all of you for your help!

I have been contacted by open minded people - looking for the anomaly - proof of the impossible.

Dear Conrad,

I did not join this furum for philosophy, or for self - engrandment - but to share the joy of my hard research.

I recognize "small pie" thinking, and most of the time it is right, logical, pessimistic, and seemingly wise.

We need to encourage others, at your age you understand a great deal, be careful, no man plants a tree that he expects to climb, but instead he thinks of future generations.

I choose to be "Naive" because at heart, I am an adventurer, explorer, motivated by discovery of the unknown.

It is sad when Experience suppresses others, you may think you are helping, you can never know, one day someone will succeed, - but how much wiser it would have been to help those willing to try, rather than dash dreams.

What was the cost to you, nothing.

What was the real cost of failure - nothing,

and the real cost of giving up - everything.

I can not imagine that this forum was created, and joined by a group of people to watch, proclaim, and ensure that others fail.

I love trouble shooting, solving problems, - I find no room for impossible.

Even if I had failed myself. I would choose to believe it was eventually possible myself.

Live long and strong!

Wayne