Hydro Differential pressure exchange over unity system.

[conradelektro]

Thank you Mr. Travis for answering my question about the "Gen".

I think I understand now what is going on and I describe it in very loose terms:

1) When the " three riser system" is measured with pressure sensors at various points one observes higher pressures than in a conventional "Archimedes type system".

2) One also observes that the "three risers" rise higher than a simple riser in a conventional "Archimedes type system".

3) And finally more fluid is displaced in the "three riser system" than in a conventional "Archimedes type system".

From these three observation Mr. Travis concludes that there is OU.


And now comes the not so nice part:

If one wants to take advantage of these observations (of the alleged OU Travis effect) and one tries to build a machine, problems start to appear. The biggest problem is to get a useful net output. And this is to be expected, because the so called OU Travis effect is a misinterpretation of situations (pressure, height of movement, amount of fluid displacement) which appear at certain stages of the operation of the machine. But this alleged OU situations are cancelled out at other stages during the operation of the machine.

In simple words: at some stages of the operation one can measure "high values", but at other stages there will be "negative values"; resulting over all in the conventional values as observed in simple "Archimedes type systems".

Because the system is mind boggling and difficult to describe with rigorous mathematics an endless discussing ensues, specially when laymen are involved.


Therefore I always want to see a self running system which puts out considerable net energy for a longer time:

This would put aside all "theoretical discussions" and would force "scientists" (the establishment) to have a closer look. But exactly this "self runner with a considerable net output" eludes Mr. Travis since years.

Whenever a Travis-system is built the alleged "OU demonstrating measurements" can be done, but the machine does not self run and does not put out a considerable amount of net energy.

Because a Travis-system is rather complicated (and needs a many electric valves, sensors and electronics for self running), one suspects that the problems are caused by not enough sophisticated engineering. But in fact, the concept is the problem.


The misunderstanding:

Mr. Travis talks about measurements which for him demonstrate OU.

Observers (like me and other sceptics) want to see a self running machine which puts out a considerable net energy over a longer time (because that would put aside all speculation and all interpretations whether true or false).

Mr. Travis wants people to believe in his OU measurements (the Travis effect).

People want to see free energy pouring out of a working machine.

Greetings, Conrad

[LarryC]

If I put an outlet valve at the crossconnection between the first (piston) tube and the second tube, and pipe that into another, identical tube.... then open this valve when the piston is in the final fully depressed state, the water will run from the full tube through this valve into the new, empty tube. Right?
How high will the water rise in this new tube?

In the diagram on the left it would rise up until the two columns of water were at equal heights, I think.... but I can't quite picture what would happen in the third, righthand case.

Right about equal heights, and would be the same on the other two if you crossconnected between the fist and second on each. You would be removing the pressure created by the piston, so everything will slide back around.

Regards, Larry

[mrwayne]

Thank you Mr. Travis for answering my question about the "Gen".

I think I understand now what is going on and I describe it in very loose terms:

1) When the " three riser system" is measured with pressure sensors at various points one observes higher pressures than in a conventional "Archimedes type system".

2) One also observes that the "three risers" rise higher than a simple riser in a conventional "Archimedes type system".

3) And finally more fluid is displaced in the "three riser system" than in a conventional "Archimedes type system".

From these three observation Mr. Travis concludes that there is OU.

Dear Conrad??

I can not believe you got all three of these wrong?

First - our system has the same Pressures as the Archimedes' in each layer respectfully to the additive head and to lift.
Several people have shown that here - is this just a misquote?

Second - Our system uses a short and fast stroke - over a long one. 11.1 times faster than a Archimedes' same lift and distance.
Larry has been banging the drum on this for a week.
Third- we use a microscopic amount of input volume to Archimedes' ?This is the key point of the Travis Effect......

You have been getting some bad info,  or I have done a terrible job.

Sorry Conrad - you need a clean sheet.

All 100 of us are not just wishing it were so...

Good day.

[TinselKoala]

Right about equal heights, and would be the same on the other two if you crossconnected between the fist and second on each. You would be removing the pressure created by the piston, so everything will slide back around.

Regards, Larry

So in the one on the left, the water columns would equalize in the new tube and the receiver tube of the 2-tube system. So the water columns would both be at  the height equal to the piston travel, just like at the beginning but in different tubes. Right? (corrected the "half", sorry)

And in the one on the right, the water columns would also equalize between the new tube and the second tube of the 4 tube system?
At the same height of the piston travel? Or would it rise to the same height as in the 2-tube system on the left?

[TinselKoala]

No quick response to that last question of mine?